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Arizona voters reject effort to enact stricter voter ID law
The Associated Press ^ | November 17, 2022 | By BOB CHRISTIE

Posted on 11/17/2022 5:50:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona voters who overwhelmingly cast their ballots by mail have rejected a measure that would have required them to add more information to the simple signature and date they now put on the back of the return envelope.

Proposition 309 also would have eliminated the ability of registered voters who do not have a state or federally-issued photo ID with them when they vote in-person to provide other proof of identity to cast a ballot.

New tallies from Maricopa County and several smaller counties released on Wednesday showed there was no chance for the measure to pass. It had been too close to call in the eight days since polls closed on Nov. 8 and was the last of 10 measures on the ballot to be called by The Associated Press.

If it had passed, Proposition 309 would have required voters to write their birthdates and add state-issued voter identification numbers, driver license or identification card numbers or a partial social security number to affidavits rather than just signing and dating them. The back-of-envelope signature used by many counties also would be changed to require that they be placed into a second envelope.

In-person voting requirements also would change, eliminating the ability of voters who don’t have a state, tribal or federal government-issued photo ID on them to vote by presenting two alternate documents, such as a utility bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; votefraud; voterid
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1 posted on 11/17/2022 5:50:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Overwhelmingly


2 posted on 11/17/2022 5:52:08 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Voter fraud to enable more voter fraud.


3 posted on 11/17/2022 5:52:25 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In related news, Willie Sutton was asked if banks should hire more security guards.


4 posted on 11/17/2022 5:53:03 AM PST by Be Free (When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

50.4% to 49.6%.


5 posted on 11/17/2022 5:56:32 AM PST by kabar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Flooding the system with mail-in ballots is the issue. Mail-in ballots should only be used for special circumstances. Clean up the voter rolls, stop the proliferation of mail-in ballots being sent out by the SOS and issue voter-id laws and the problem will be solved.


6 posted on 11/17/2022 5:57:14 AM PST by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Play the game. In 2024 they should be talking about how badly the Republicans must have cheated


7 posted on 11/17/2022 5:59:17 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As its first order of business, the U.S. House of Representatives should shut down the USPS until vote by mail has been reformed. Such reforms should include signatures on the outside of all return envelopes so they get scanned by the USPS and not the state election people, and refusing to deliver any such mail in ballots after the polls close on election day. Since the USPS runs at a loss, there is great leverage to reform this corruption. Realistically, I won’t hold my breath for RINO McCarthy do actually do anything useful other than grandstand.


8 posted on 11/17/2022 5:59:42 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: ProudDeplorable
Ther absence of THIS is why we have BEEN losing . . . why we lost . . . and why we will lose again
9 posted on 11/17/2022 6:00:52 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
voters who don’t have a state, tribal or federal government-issued photo ID on them

Nobody lacking said photo ID should be the recipient of any federal or state welfare.

10 posted on 11/17/2022 6:01:11 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: fwdude

Not surprising people are lazy!
Even if being lazy means you enable criminality.


11 posted on 11/17/2022 6:01:30 AM PST by Reily
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To: wiseprince
Play the game. In 2024 they should be talking about how badly the Republicans must have cheated.

Exactly. The only way to fix this is to become much better at it than the Democrats to the point where they're screaming to make it illegal.
12 posted on 11/17/2022 6:01:46 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can someone explain to me why they think Florida and Utah vote by mail and somehow that’s not creating corruption? I heard some radio host saying that the GOP needs to get into this stuff as well since it’s the law now and folks aren’t going to want to drop the convenience.


13 posted on 11/17/2022 6:01:50 AM PST by GulliverSwift
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To: fwdude
Exactly!
14 posted on 11/17/2022 6:02:17 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ballots were Counted by the CORRUPT SoS of course...


15 posted on 11/17/2022 6:04:38 AM PST by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Vote by mail should tell everyone how Arizonans voted.


16 posted on 11/17/2022 6:04:59 AM PST by chopperk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Arizona voters who overwhelmingly cast their ballots by mail

Now that there is right funny. The above phrase is code (weak at best) for "DNC Operatives".

17 posted on 11/17/2022 6:05:12 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: fwdude
At this point, the voting system can be said to have collapsed. It now only has a thin veneer of legitimacy, and that is quickly dissipating as well.

The people that select the "winners" are also selecting the final tallies of ballot questions such as this (prop 309). Same here in MA last week, where all 4 ballot measures "passed", where clearly #4 by any measure of the electorate, would be rejected (giving illegals driver's licenses).

The FRAUD memes of 2020, now were exhibited ubiquitously thruout the US. Below, one for GA gov, the other for MA gov.


18 posted on 11/17/2022 6:07:03 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; kiryandil

Rigging the vote in order to stop measures that prevent rigging the vote.

And to think, the stupid legislature and the stupid governor could have done this one on their own.

The GOPee is not our friends.


19 posted on 11/17/2022 6:07:28 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: kabar

That doesn’t sound like anybody rejecting anything. THAT sounds like collateral damage from the fraud that went on during the election to elect more trash and garbage into Arizona banana republic politics.


20 posted on 11/17/2022 6:11:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out. Remember that Snowflakes!)
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