Biden, Poland, Ukraine, And NATO Blame Russia For Errant Ukrainian Air-Defense Missile That Struck Poland – Biden Does Another Walk Back

tsarizm.com ^ | November 16, 2022 | Jen Snow

[BipolarBob]

And in other news, Alec Baldwin still blames the gun manufacturer and other people for him pointing and pulling the trigger that killed the cinema photographer.

[dforest]

And the stooges aroungd here were calling Douglas Mac Gregor a kook. He has this one pegged.

Look out, they are going for an escalation.

[rxh4n1]

False flag to provoke a war. This has been done before. See Mainila and Gleiwitz.

[hardspunned]

Other than a couple near catastrophic Cold War computer fails, maybe a serious auto wreck or tornado, you came closer to dying yesterday, we all did, than on any other day of your life. Me, I was six during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I had a half dozen there.

[jacknhoo]

You’re right. They want to escalate.

[wardamneagle]

Ukraine shot a miss-fired missile……the missile didn’t have a GPS tracker or destruct button ? Bull shit !

[cranked]

Good job, Banderites.
You shot down a tractor, 2 people and some farm animals...all while trying your damn best to start WWIII.

[JudgemAll]

Oh, that Biden red line… them fightin words to Putin, I tell yah…

This technical argument about whether the missile really landed deliberately or was Ukrainian or what not, is absolutely ridiculous cowardice.

You mean to tell me we were not ready or expecting a spill over?

Putin knows that for all the incompetence of his military, we keep nevertheless showing weakness after weakness, no matter what.

[elpadre]

Pro-Russian views:

Interesting post and comments on Moon of Alabama

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

[JudgemAll]

Putin and no one is worried about the Banderites but NATO (dis)unity. Stop with the communist nonsense.

[Always A Marine]

Ukraine shot a miss-fired missile……the missile didn’t have a GPS tracker or destruct button ? Bull shit !

Anti-air missiles are supposed to self-destruct at altitude if targets are missed; however, the mechanism has frequently failed with Ukraine's older S-300 missiles. That's why you'll see some of them falling and exploding on cities in Ukraine after failing to intercept incoming Russian missiles. What goes up must come down, hopefully after it explodes.

It is also possible to use S-300 systems as surface-to-surface missiles (up to 120km range) by disarming the self-destruct mechanisms, but accuracy is poor and effectiveness is very limited in that role. They are best used in their designed role against aircraft and incoming missiles.

And back to that 120km max range... The point of impact is much farther than 120km from any Russian-held territory or from Belarus, so the S-300 missile that nailed the Polish farm tractor could only have been fired by the Ukrainians who were trying to shoot down incoming Russian missiles.

[cranked]

Denial is ignorance. Period.
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‘Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion attempts rebranding’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/ykgh-j03.html

‘Nazi collaborator monuments in Ukraine’
https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/?amp=1

‘British Media ‘Whitewashing’ Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: UK Editor’
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/British-Media-Whitewashing-Ukrainian-Neo-Nazis-UK-Editor-20220530-0001.html

‘Ukrainian Journalist Exposes the Azov Battalion’
https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/ukrainian-journalist-exposes-the#details

‘Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/6/21533/Ukraines-Neo-Nazis?infinitescroll=1

‘Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zoB_6c0cag

‘Adam Schiff meets with members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion’
https://www.worldtribune.com/adam-schiff-meets-with-members-of-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/

“Ukrainian paratroopers singing ‘Our father is Bandera, our mother is Ukraine.’
Bandera was the leader of Ukraine’s Nazi organization and murdered over 100,000 Poles and Jews in 1943-1944.
Just in case you still think the Ukrainian military and government isn’t filled with Nazis!”
https://twitter.com/historyoarmani2/status/1582458713222262784

‘Zelensky Speech With Nazi AZOV BATTALION Prompts Greek Lawmakers To WALK OUT’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tAWaNEhU8

Start at the 4:58 mark-
‘RT News - Sep 19 2022’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtB_r5yazsg

‘The ideology of the Banderists’
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217363.html

“Ukronazi ‘good terrorists’ – a who’s who (infographic)”
http://thesaker.is/ukronazi-good-terrorists-a-whos-who-infographic/

‘The Presence of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine’
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/europe/medea-benjamin-nicolas-js-davies-ukraine-war-russia-ukranian-neo-nazi-fascists-azov-battalion-89292/

‘Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

‘How to Mainstream Neo-Nazis: A Lesson from Ukraine’s New Government’
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/

‘Ukrainian Militia Behind Brutal Romany Attacks Getting State Funds’
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-militia-behind-brutal-romany-attacks-getting-state-funds/29290844.html

“Russia reacts to Azov neo-Nazi’s platform at prestigious US university”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564642-azov-delegation-stanford-university/

“2019 Stepan #Bandera year...A series of letters, from the #Polish and #Israeli embassies in #Ukraine protesting the #Zelensky governments
decision to pass laws commemorating #Nazis. They were sent only 2 years ago.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1582690527316623360

‘Ukraine’s “Neo-Nazi Summer Camp”. Military Training for Young Children’
https://www.globalresearch.ca/military-training-for-young-children-at-ukraines-neo-nazi-summer-camp-recruitment-of-ukraines-child-soldiers-financed-by-us-nonlethal-military-aid/5472801

‘Kiev Street RENAMED To Honor AZOV BATTALLION’
https://rumble.com/v1q8pql-kiev-street-renamed-to-honor-azov-battallion.html

‘How The U.S. Learned To Love Neo-N@zis In Ukraine’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRi-A4WskYI

‘‘Now, All of You Are Azov’: ‘openly neo-Nazi’ Ukrainian delegation meets Congress, tours US’
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/05/azov-neo-nazi-ukrainian-congress/

‘Ukrainian paratroopers singing “Our father is Bandera, our mother is Ukraine”.
Bandera was the leader of Ukraine’s Nazi organization and murdered over 100,000 Poles and Jews in 1943-1944.
Just in case you still think the Ukrainian military and government isn’t filled with Nazis!’
https://twitter.com/historyoarmani2/status/1582458713222262784

‘Fast Forward to Fascism’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yvMu5HNU1A

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[JudgemAll]

Comrad, still fighting WWII and accuses others of starting WWIII…

Give me a break

[cranked]

Denial is ignorance. Period.
Enjoy it.
Breathe it in.
Look in your mirror.
And practice your hailing of a cab salute or better yet, your freedom salute.

[Toad of Toad Hall]

Article 5 should be invoked against Ukraine as it has now launched unprovoked missile strikes on Hungary and Poland.

[cranked]

Perhaps, but don’t forget Article 11, which most do.

[gleeaikin]

Wow, St. Petersburg must be paying you really well with all the time you are taking to put together such s long list of links trying to make Ukranians out as a bunch of Nazis. These days the main Nazi types at work are the onces running the Russian government.

On a separaate note, NATO seems to be walking back the idea that the deaths in Poland were caused by a deliberate missile strike sent by Russia. However, they also point out correctly that Russia IS responsible, because Ukraine would not be firing missiles, to try to destroy the ones being sent by Russia, which may have accidentally landed in Poland.

[cranked]

Yo, you pro-Ukrainian knuckleheads are stuck on stupid and it is pretty established that any one you don’t agree with is, well, you guessed it, paid by the Kremlin, etc.

At any rate, enjoy.....

‘Ukraine’s Epic Fail at Manufacturing a False Flag’.
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-epic-fail-at-manufacturing-a-false-flag/