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To: grey_whiskers; BlackbirdSST

“You’re a troll.”

Yeah, because no one can disagree with you. You claim rampant, insurmountable election fraud. If you are right, we might as well give up. Arizona won’t change with a Democrat Gov and Democrat SoS, so the next election, and next, and the one after that - we’re all DOOMED! No more meaningful elections in Arizona.

Screw you, boy. I want to WIN the next election. If that means we need to learn how to WIN the MAIL-IN vote - as Republicans are learning in New York and California - then by all means lets LEARN!

And no, if Kari Lake lost by “fraud”, then Trump will lose in 2024 too. This “fraud” crap needs to stop! I’m sick of sniveling cowards making excuses for failing to get out the vote. And MAYBE even for failing to understand a significant part of the voters we need are NOT hard-core conservatives!

We need to drop the moral purity tests and build a coalition that can win. Without that, there will never be any election reform and the Dems will hold power forever!

PS: I can think of several GOP governors who are getting the job done in opposing the Biden Admin AND doing so in a way that BUILDS support. Not just angry talk, but action.


138 posted on 11/16/2022 1:01:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers
I gave *evidence* of the fraud my multiple mechanisms; your reply, instead of acknowledging that the fraud was real (instead of whining and "sour grapes" by, oh, say, people dragged under by the fictitious Trump undertow), seemed to mention a bunch of unrelated issues.

I agree with learning how to win: but why accept "mail-in" as a fait accompli, given all the obvious issues (e.g. ballots found in a ravine in Santa Clara CA after the election)?

And you ought to actually, you know, READ what I wrote?

Kari didn't fail to deliver the vote: 30% of the deep red districts had open manipulation going on, like the FRICKING BALLOTS BEING THE WRONG SIZE FOR THE MACHINE, or the machines "malfunctioning" when they worked perfectly the night before...compared to NO such problems in blue voting areas.

And ballots which wouldn't fit "accidentally" being mixed with already counted ballots.

And it's not "Oh gee we got outvoted by mail-in". Most of the red-vote mail-ins were brought in, IN PERSON, by people who didn't trust the USPS. Only to find the machine had other ways of destroying or not counting their votes at all, or even swapping them 1-for-1 with blue ballots.

That's not "failing to deliver the vote."

139 posted on 11/16/2022 1:21:34 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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