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To: Seaplaner

Bush was very wise and Presidential ... he behaved wise and Presidential in front of cameras his entire second term. How did that work out for you?

Be aware that DeSantis will HAVE to take help from Karl Rove, the Bush Family, and the rest of the neocons out there that are mostly responsible for the state of this country should Desantis want to run in 2024.

If DeSantis would wait until 2026, he wouldn’t owe anyone anything.

If Desantis runs and wins in 2024, expect another W Bush Presidency. It’ll be the same “roll over and die” kind of Presidency brought to you by other elite Republican scumbag losers like George HW Bush and Gerald Ford.

Bottom line, you can’t be a statesman when you are fighting wild animals. The liberals can act all stately since they own the media ... the media does the dirty work for them. We don’t have such luxuries, so when we own the bully pulpit, we need to make effective use of it.

I’ll even go so far to say that if Reagan were around today and was playing the role Donald Trump currently holds, even he’d be attacking liberal idiots with less winks and smiles and more outright attacks. It is *that* bad these days.


88 posted on 11/15/2022 12:47:03 PM PST by edh
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To: edh
Bush was very wise and Presidential

Kinda lost me right there, my good FRiend.

And, to your other points, if the Never Trumpers support someone that I support, that does not mean that he supports them. And, it does not mean that he owes anybody.

Actually, I'm pretty certain that DJT will not get the GOP nom, and it will be mostly on DJT. He'll say his cringeworthy things, and have us searching for options.

I also suspect that DeSantis has a much better chance of winning the general, as many of the GOPers that I know (including my DW) have said that they've had it with Trump.

As unfair and unenlightened as it seems, major elections are won and lost on optics. Appearance, scary behavior (thus trust), age, and other visual and visceral attributes will sway superficial voters. DJT can't compete with youth, vigor, and superficial perceptions.

All that said, we're really talking about the primaries and the nom; and, if DJT wins the GOP nom, I'll vote for and support him.

92 posted on 11/15/2022 1:37:52 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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