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Millennium Tower Fix Shifts to Hasten Completion (Timbrrr coming?)
NBC Bay Area ^ | 11/10/2022 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 11/14/2022 6:37:52 AM PST by vespa300

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To: Celtic Conservative

There are parts of cities all over the world that are built on reclaimed land. The Back bay section of Boston is all reclaimed land in an area that was part of the Charles River. The 60 story John Hancock building and 52 story Prudential Center is built there.
The difference is there is solid ROCK down below what was wetland.

Even on Manhattan there are areas of landfill. All of Greenwich Village is landfill. This is why there are only 4 story buildings in this part of Manhattan. All the really tall buildings on the island are in Mid town OR downtown/Wall street area which is solid rock.

This San Francisco building was built on land fill with friction pilings that had been used in many other buildings in the same area. The friction pilings go down about 80 feet into the ground.
That is because they did not want to drill down to the rock that is 200 feet below the surface.


41 posted on 11/14/2022 8:31:24 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Red Badger

Didn’t a residential building collapse on the Florida coast recently?


42 posted on 11/14/2022 8:36:05 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Celtic Conservative

Wait!!! I’ve been told countless times by people who are “smarter” than me that the whole world is gonna be under water in like 3.2 years. How is reclaimed land even possible?? /s


43 posted on 11/14/2022 8:38:57 AM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: kosciusko51

Yes, but for another reason. Salt water intrusion into the reinforced concrete weakened the structure by corroding the steel rebar............


44 posted on 11/14/2022 8:49:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: kosciusko51
Yes, Surfside condos in 2021.

Investigations into 2021 Surfside condo collapse far from over

45 posted on 11/14/2022 8:55:39 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Red Badger

It’s built on fill. The piles installed during construction were inadequate (friction piles I believe). The repair included many piles to bedrock and that process was started. Then political infighting began between contractors and engineers. The fix was halted, then resumed under far less ambitious conditions and the tilting continued. The building is doomed IMHO.


46 posted on 11/14/2022 9:02:46 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Dstorm
. I had made a comment of “tear it down” on another thread about this building , unaware of the scene from the movie. Another poster referenced the movie.

The movie is hilarious, I really enjoyed it. .

Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House - If You Ain't Eating Wham

47 posted on 11/14/2022 9:12:08 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: vespa300

48 posted on 11/14/2022 9:22:54 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: vespa300; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...

Domino — it ain’t just a theory.


49 posted on 11/14/2022 9:40:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: vespa300

I don’t know why they keep d!ck!ng around with this. The only way I can see this tilting tower thing getting resolved is if Elon Musk & Donald Trump put their heads together.
And even that seems like a risky prospect.


50 posted on 11/14/2022 9:46:12 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Red Badger

Partly it’s the city’s fault. The builders however counted on the city not doing something stupid, and did something stupid themselves — they didn’t drill down to bedrock during the foundation phase of construction.

An engineer known for fixing stuff like this was consulted, he told them they needed to shore it up from the deep center of the foundation, but that was much more expensive, so they did what he warned them not to do, and tried shoring it up from outer edges at street level. The tilt got worse.

Give or take a quake (for which SF is best known), the building will come down, uncontrolled, and on its own schedule, and will damage and perhaps tip one or more neighboring buildings. It needs to be evac’d and dismantled (probably can’t be imploded due to proximity of other highrises) while there is still time.

My guess is, it won’t be.


51 posted on 11/14/2022 9:50:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenanc/gx2ev_vwGKAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover


52 posted on 11/14/2022 9:52:24 AM PST by GOPJ ( Networks need camera crews in black communities too. Watch turnout and comments. Harlem? Chicago? )
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Image from sept 2022, it sez here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7903987,-122.3962998,3a,90y,-3.04h,92.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMzHmUQexxfb8tOPzYIoHprfXDEF0XYhZGSEgJ8!2e10!7i4608!8i2304?hl=en


53 posted on 11/14/2022 9:52:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B047‘25.4%22N+122%C2%B023’46.0%22W/@37.7913969,-122.4009917,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xb90ae474980b9954!8m2!3d37.7904!4d-122.3961?hl=en


54 posted on 11/14/2022 10:10:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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New problem at San Francisco’s still-sinking Millennium Tower means it may be forever tilting
Andrew Chamings
SFGATE
May 17, 2022
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/new-problem-at-SF-sinking-tower-17179301.php


55 posted on 11/14/2022 10:16:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Thanks for the update

At 80 I remember stuff....but sometimes its fragmented.

Need a brain de-frag

Good news... no plack nor lesions detected in a recent MRI scan.

56 posted on 11/14/2022 1:20:17 PM PST by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: spokeshave

Glad to hear the good news, we need experienced FReepers.


57 posted on 11/14/2022 4:21:52 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: vespa300

Tear er down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-gE6fnDic


58 posted on 11/15/2022 1:38:59 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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