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Bore! Donald Trump has gone and lost his swing
New York Post ^ | November 12, 2022 | Michael Goodwin

Posted on 11/13/2022 5:00:29 AM PST by karpov

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To: enumerated; the OlLine Rebel

Thank you, yours (and tOR’s) are among the few reasonable exchanges I’ve seen on FR on this topic.

I’ve long supported Trump (ever since Cruz blamed Trump for the fascists shutting down the Chicago rally) and will vote for him again if there’s an opportunity to do so. Questioning the value some of his recent statements (and I do) doesn’t make me a Communist, a troll, a Trump hater, or any of the other things those who do so get called.

Maybe he can’t because of a strategy he can’t divulge, but it would be helpful if Trump would elaborate on why he’s making those apparently unprompted comments instead of leaving many of his supporters to speculate.


141 posted on 11/13/2022 10:19:32 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Magic Fingers

You are kind.

You’ve probably noticed my temper gets sick of the name-calling and I lash out too.

Not perfect, here.

Just wish we could have our point listened to, rather than dismissed out of hand and told e.g., Trump’s style just shows hes “Tough” and of course, we RINOs are just wimps.

So yes, it does get wearing. Hard to resist the temptation to retort in kind.


142 posted on 11/13/2022 10:26:29 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

What is the best avenue?

My friends look at it like this-

If Trump would get the media to like him then he’ll have won

They pretend to know all about religion but they don’t know the enemy

The enemy looks nice and enticing while ensnaring then when you’re in, it turns on you

It has no mercy.

They think it does. They think you can reason with it

I suggest people beware of wolves dressed in sheeps clithing. Gymuys who look good but who work for those who fund them

Trump is self funded. No one else is.

He is telling Imus to be careful. We like for everyone to fit into our paradigm

The enemy doesn’t work that way

Look at FLA. red wave. Same as the entire country. The only places not monitored by this new system were red waves

My rural and suburban. Calif. Education reps. And Florida.

Then chew on it. Red wave where votes mattered. Why? Do people think Floridians are somehow different from the rest of the country? I don’t see any evidence that they are. Why were they allowed to vote? Why was their governor allowed to fix the system? Would he be allowed to if he had the White House? There’s no evidence that he would even try


143 posted on 11/13/2022 10:29:00 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

“It’s not about voting.”

True.

If every institution is run by liberals.

I don’t see how voting is going to change policies or the direction of the nation.

This country is being led by arrogant psychos.


144 posted on 11/13/2022 10:34:15 AM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: wardaddy

“One thing for sure Dixie population grows”

Good, the numbers game counts.

The South is the most conservative region both now and historically.

If we could peek into the future 200 years from now, it’ll be the same.


145 posted on 11/13/2022 10:42:12 AM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

ahhh, so this “jerk” repeats the question you ignore ... who will fight as hard or effectively? YOU got noone, and I rest my case loser...


146 posted on 11/13/2022 10:51:02 AM PST by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Hard to resist the temptation to retort in kind.”

Unfortunately, been there/done that too. Trying to break the habit...


147 posted on 11/13/2022 10:54:02 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Quit opining without facts.

Aren't opinions exactly that? If it was 100% proven, it wouldn't be an opinion, it would be a fact.

It's my opinion that you are confused about the difference between an opinion, and a fact.

148 posted on 11/13/2022 10:57:18 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: ncalburt

Trump has destroyed Pennsylvania.

I will never forgive him for that.


149 posted on 11/13/2022 10:58:11 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: miserare
Trump has destroyed Pennsylvania.

Keep in mind that the PA Legislature changed the laws regarding mail in ballots in 2019 (before COVID-19).

The PA Legislature shoulders a lot of the blame.

150 posted on 11/13/2022 11:00:37 AM PST by Fury
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To: stanne

He has a lower favorability rating than Biden. Tell me how he improves his favorability rating, esp. with independents.


151 posted on 11/13/2022 11:01:57 AM PST by randita
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To: randita
He has a lower favorability rating than Biden.

Are you on LSD?

152 posted on 11/13/2022 11:02:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: PalominoGuy
who will fight as hard or effectively? YOU got noone, and I rest my case loser...

That's an interesting question. I can't say that there is anyone who would fight harder than Trump. Maybe some would fight as hard, but not harder.

But "effectively" is a different question. I think Trump is remarkably ineffective for how hard he fights. And that's because he's shown himself to be rather poor at hiring good subordinates. Without good subordinates, it is almost impossible to redirect properly something as large as the federal government.

His effectiveness also is reduced by his habit of personally attacking and alienating anyone who disagrees with them. That makes it very hard to build the alliances necessary to get big things done. People who otherwise might be willing to work with him on an issue don't simply because they have come to hate his guts.

153 posted on 11/13/2022 11:15:12 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: unclebankster

It is interesting to note the the “long depression” coincides with the greatest surge of immigration from Europe.

My own ancestors arrived between 1890 and 1898. They immediately found employment.

They were the “Downstairs” people in the great NYC mansions, and servants in the grand hotels. Parlor maids, chauffeurs, gardeners, stable hands, etc.

Today, their descendants are CEO’s, doctors, lawyers, college professors, small business owners, stockbrokers,etc.

Many conclusions can be drawn.

It seems that bad times can lead to good times for hardworking people of faith and fortitude.


154 posted on 11/13/2022 11:24:02 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Fury

That, too, and the weakness of leadership in the PA Republican party.


155 posted on 11/13/2022 11:25:18 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: randita

Not true


156 posted on 11/13/2022 11:27:22 AM PST by stanne
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

... I appreciate the thoughtful post, but will disagree based on the fact that DS Rinos won’t be persuaded or drawn to his positions. As far as hires, he was making decisions in the WH to clean up after the mess deliberately left by ObamaoBiden and left the big loyalty talking Cristie to fill hundreds of positions... he didn’t seem like the loser he is in 2016. ChinaMitch hemmed him in with DS choices, especially confirmation ones after 2016. And look at the pressure put on him even having choices for lawyers as firms were threatened with no Fortune100 business if anyone stepped up to represent him. None of the above was by accident and the Uniparty pulled out all the stops after the HillaryCheat in 2016 wasn’t big enough to stop him... ymmv


157 posted on 11/13/2022 11:42:18 AM PST by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

... I appreciate the thoughtful post, but will disagree based on the fact that DS Rinos won’t be persuaded or drawn to his positions. As far as hires, he was making decisions in the WH to clean up after the mess deliberately left by ObamaoBiden and left the big loyalty talking Cristie to fill hundreds of positions... he didn’t seem like the loser he is in 2016. ChinaMitch hemmed him in with DS choices, especially confirmation ones after 2016. And look at the pressure put on him even having choices for lawyers as firms were threatened with no Fortune100 business if anyone stepped up to represent him. None of the above was by accident and the Uniparty pulled out all the stops after the HillaryCheat in 2016 wasn’t big enough to stop him... ymmv


158 posted on 11/13/2022 11:42:19 AM PST by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: silent majority rising

Oh! Now Conservatives are ready, with it being too late and everything!


159 posted on 11/13/2022 11:43:19 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: miserare

“It seems that bad times can lead to good times for hardworking people of faith and fortitude.”

Exactly.

Those times will happen again and the way our ancestors dealt with tough times is a good road map in any era.


160 posted on 11/13/2022 12:06:51 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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