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To: Salohcin; NorseViking; cranked

Considering the annellation and 300 deaths of elite marines one shakes his head in dismay at the certain deaths of the poorly trained and barely equipped 300,000

Knowing of the fate of the 300, the 300,000 know they are doomed


11 posted on 11/08/2022 7:40:07 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: bert

According to you propaganda peddling idiots, Russians had long evacuated Kherson and Kherson City.

Ukrainians waiting for an invitation to take it/them?


15 posted on 11/08/2022 9:34:37 AM PST by cranked
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To: bert

The story is already debunked as a Ukrainian propaganda feat.


18 posted on 11/08/2022 9:54:13 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: bert

“The Thee Hundred

The Claim: the 155th Brigade of the Russian marine infantry lost 300 men as wounded, killed, and missing in action in fighting at Pavlovka.

The Russian Ministry of Defence Response: The losses are significantly overstated, the losses of the Brigade constituted 1% KIA and 7% WIA. Most of the 7% WIA have already recovered and returned to battle.

The Renewed Claim: Ah-ha, well the Brigade is 3300 men at full strength, so 1% + 7% = 8% = 264 men killed and wounded (or 33 KIA and 231 WIA).

The Breakdown:

First of all, this is exactly what the reports indicated, that no more than 30 Russian marine infantry of the 155th Brigade lost their lives in the Pavlovka attack. Reports further indicated that the actual number of KIA was between 10 and 30.

Second, the “renewed claim” math only works if the Brigade is assumed to have been at full strength. This is false. From the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict many of the Russian units were understaffed, sometimes severely. This continues to be the case, and the Brigade was not at full strength in Pavlovka fighting.

Accordingly, the truth is definitely somewhere in between the “300 claim” and the MoD rebuttal, but more likely than not it is closer to the MoD numbers. This is confirmed by terse statements from Igor Mangushev.

Igor “Bereg” Mangushev

Colleagues, 155th Brigade just couldn’t get that many combat-ready men [GB: to have lost 300]. As of mid-October, when I went on leave, that’s for sure was the case. I doubt the situation has changed in two weeks. Cut the losses by three times—I agree, it could happen. But 300 people means that the brigade is gone and there is no one to write letters to. And they wouldn’t have gotten into Pavlovka.

There were never hundreds of mobilized men under Pavlovka. If there had been, Pavlovka would’ve been crushed to hell. On the contrary, there are no men. Definitely not hundreds. There’s no place to put them in Pavlovka.

Case closed, in my opinion. The losses of 100 (all in), with an approximate breakdown of 10-20 KIA and 80-90 WIA appears to be closer to truth.”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/19153

If ZelenskyyIdiot shit and it had a ‘Russia DoOmed’ smell to it, be assured, you moronic propaganda peddling idiots would pick it up and run with it.


20 posted on 11/08/2022 9:59:28 AM PST by cranked
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