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Now Putin turns on his own men: Desperate Russian army brings in 'blocking units' which 'threaten to shoot their own retreating soldiers'
The Daily Mail ^ | November 5, 2022 | CHRISTIAN OLIVER

Posted on 11/05/2022 11:35:51 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
May have been the case during the time of the Soviet Union and definitely true of the HOHO army now... Certainly not true of the 80K - 100K Russians who just volunteered and not likely true of any other Russian units.

Lying timber-rattling sack of ****....

21 posted on 11/05/2022 12:00:59 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes, let us pray for the people of Russia. Putin and his cronies are the VILLAINS, and the people are the VICTIMS. Pray also for Alexei Navalny and other resistors.


22 posted on 11/05/2022 12:01:36 PM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from
BIDEN DECLARES WAR ON AMERICA!

Old news...

23 posted on 11/05/2022 12:06:49 PM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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HOHOs fumbling around in the dark, starving, freezing. and winter hasn't really even started yet, and they're still gonna win????

Why is it always so easy to tell when wankers have been smokin the really heavy, bomb-grade stuff??

24 posted on 11/05/2022 12:07:14 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: Timber Rattler

They did this in ww2 as well.


25 posted on 11/05/2022 12:09:17 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Timber Rattler

The beatings will continue until morale improves!


26 posted on 11/05/2022 12:12:51 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: Timber Rattler

This is true. You have no idea how tiring it can be to massacre people all day.
After our work Putin, and I would drinks vodka, and have a good laugh. Early to bed he would always say. We have another busy day tomorrow. He always made me laugh.😂 🇷🇺


27 posted on 11/05/2022 12:13:36 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: Timber Rattler

Okay


28 posted on 11/05/2022 12:15:27 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Owen
It is very likely this is happening. The Wagner Group was hiring from the prisons and the inmates were told that if they disobeyed or ran from the front, they would be shot. If you are hiring from the prisons that is how you motivate them to not run away. This is an effective understanding of human nature. As for the mobiks, most of them are prior service and they understand discipline. You may not need barrage battalions to keep them in the line if they feel they are fighting for something meaningful such as hearth and home. But many of them feel that this is Putin's war for his ego, so why should they fight for that? Knowing this, the Russian army may be using backstop troops on a fairly large scale to prevent soldiers from running away.
29 posted on 11/05/2022 12:16:23 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: McGruff
Putin Derangement Syndrome is real.

No, Comrade McGruff, we just don't like murderous, power-mad dictators who invade their neighboring sovereign countries, illegally annex territories with sham referendums, destroy entire cities, threaten nuclear war, steal resources and kidnap entire populations, and torture and slaughter innocent citizens.


30 posted on 11/05/2022 12:18:10 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Almost no point in doing this, but I’ll proceed:

1)There is nearly no hand to hand combat taking place. It is a long range artillery war. Satellites are a few hundred, not thousand, miles high, traverse the sky, image the country and downlink the data. Allocation of analysis time is focused on troop movements, on electric system repair efforts and on rear echelon supply depots.

2) There is no analysis time for counting the number of figures laying on the ground, and if such a figure were present at time X and then 20 minutes later no longer present you will not know if they walked away or were carried away. So no point in trying. If you’re American, you find the Russian depots for targeting. If you’re Russian you find the repair activity going on and specify electric network targetting accordingly.

3) Therefore, all casualty numbers anyone sees is coming from Artillery Effectiveness Models. These are modeled body totals. Not counts. Regardless of a desire for propaganda about such things, this is the only source of data, pure or propagandized. This ATM software has a solid database for the Russian side because their people train with those launchers. The Ukraine people aren’t trained and have either no software models, or models that don’t presume poor training.

So casualty counts have any merit at all only one side, and it’s a model and may be flat out wrong.

The End. Stop presuming casualty numbers mean anything.


31 posted on 11/05/2022 12:19:35 PM PDT by Owen
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To: ganeemead
Lying timber-rattling sack of ****....


32 posted on 11/05/2022 12:19:38 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

None of that is happening.


33 posted on 11/05/2022 12:25:51 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Timber Rattler

That sums it up for me.

I have no beef with Russia or the Russians.

They are humans trying to eek out a decent life. I respect
them and wish them well.

Vlad is in his final years. He has lost touch with how his
actions are affecting his citizens. He has probably already
in nine months lost more troops than we did in Vietnam
over ten years.

Those are the sons of poor Russians with a very hard life
from the get go.

I grieve with them.


34 posted on 11/05/2022 12:30:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

As for the mobiks, most of them are prior service and they understand discipline.


Which was learned while reciting their pledges to the State and holding an AK47. After which they went home. Only a very few had any actual service training at all.

They are being used to probe UA lines, without working arms, water or food. In many cases, their erstwhile commanding officer is nowhere to be found.

Putin has now conscripted en mass all prisoners who are not traitors, pedophiles, enemies of the stat, and people who stole nuclear materiel. This last should be worrisome as their must enough to be considered a category.


35 posted on 11/05/2022 12:30:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: grobdriver

Quite true. Judging by the Ukraine crap that clutters this site, you wouldn’t know that there’s an election in a few days! Yeah, the Russians, Iranians, and Chicoms are bad guys. But what they do has little effect on the typical American. And let’s face it, without the internet or cable “news”, we wouldn’t know what they were up to. The DEMOCRAT-COMMUNISTS, on the other hand have a very REAL, corrosive effect on our country. These foreign trouble makers didn’t cancel the pipelines, brainwash kids to mutilate their genitals, and leave the border wide open for our enemies to waltz right in. It was the DEMOCRAT-COMMUNISTS! Yet these Ukraine shills (many of whom are card carrying Trump-haters; check out their posting history) seem to be completely indifferent to what’s going on in the USA in the HERE and NOW...


36 posted on 11/05/2022 12:31:02 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Owen

“’Due to low morale and reluctance to fight, Russian forces have probably started deploying ‘barrier troops’ or ‘blocking units’,


The article even says it might be happening, not that it is happening.


37 posted on 11/05/2022 12:35:14 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Owen

The one thing that is real, is that Russia is in the process
of trying to introduce 300,000 more troops to the Ukraine.

You don’t do that if you haven’t lost an incredible number of
your troops already on station there.

Initial reports were 100-125 thousand troops going in.

If Russia hadn’t lost massive numbers of their troops, we’d
be seeing Russia introduce 25 thousand more troops, not
300,000 more.

The initial numbers weren’t sufficient to get the job done,
so Russia is doubling or tripling the numbers of troops
heading into the Ukraine.

I guess folks could argue he wants 400+ thousand troops
in the Ukraine, but I don’t believe that is a reasoned
retort. Russia is not able to hold the land it occupied
and controlled, and that just doesn’t support the retort.


38 posted on 11/05/2022 12:39:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

You certainly are not from Iowa or even the US.


39 posted on 11/05/2022 12:40:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you is a foreigner.

Funny thing is, the majority of the “people” I see cheerleading for this war are online— not in real, day to day life. I see a lot of F&CK Biden and Trump 2024 flags around here. The Ukraine flags exist only online. Then again, I live in the real world and avoid wasting too much time online.


40 posted on 11/05/2022 12:48:10 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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