Posted on 10/22/2022 11:04:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
Ahhhh, of course! I was thinking maybe my teevee was lying to me but magic makes much, much more sense!
Because I trust the science ™️
Blowing up Putin’s Crimean bridge has consequences. Now it’s personal.
Nobody is winning….short term or long term
“why did it take Russia this long?”
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Because this “war” has actually been two entirely different “wars.”
Unfortunately most freepers do not understand that Putin’s original mission for the “special military operation” was rather limited to the exact things he publicly specified. Independence for the Donbass (though still being in Ukraine) demilitarization (getting rid of the NATO equipment) denazification (despite ignorant freepers confusing some of the public in many countries being Nazis...including ours...with Ukraine’s government and MILITARY being controlled by NAZIs.) And, of course an agreement to never join NATO.
Most freepers do not even know that when early in Zelensky’s administration he tried to push back on them they openly threatened to kill him...he backed down. Most freepers also don’t know that we deliberately chose the Nazi’s (nationalists, Azov, etc.) to train and to send to the front in the Donbass because they were the most brutal and most likely to get the job done.
Any country that has Nazi brigades (and Ukraine has a lot of them) is a Nazi administration.
So, Russia planned a minimal kinetic action and openly made clear they would leave Ukraine once the mission was accomplished. Russia began negotiations with Zelensky, they reached a tentative agreement in March and Boris Johnson and Lloyd Austin paid visits to Zelensky to tell him that if he went through with the agreement they would no longer support Ukraine. But, if they stayed in the “war” NATO would provide all the weapons and money he needed. He chose their offer over Russia’s.
Russia continued the “operation” making slow gains with few casualties, killed an enormously large amount of Ukrainian soldiers and destroyed an enormous amount of military equipment.
When that happened NATO (read: the United States) realized Russia would win, couldn’t let that happen and escalated their monetary and equipment support, even bringing Ukrainians into NATO countries for training to NATO standards. Ukraine engaged in 7 mobilizations. And developing high paid mercenary programs to enlarge the force. And Mi-6 worked with Ukraine to go on a large counter offensive at multiple points. (They planned and trained for this for 3 months.) At that point Russia had 150,000 troops in Ukraine and Ukraine forces were up to 400,000.
Russia came to the realization that this wasn’t a Russia vs. Ukraine war. This was a Russia vs. NATO war. Since that point they have been readjusting to the new reality.
If they were able to take 20% of Ukrainian territory with very minimal forces, obviously their advantage is likely to be much greater when they have approximately 500,000 troops involved. They have expanded their arsenal extensively including the items I mentioned earlier...and brought in 800 new tanks, 11 strategic bombers. 800 planes and helos. They are planning for a big campaign.
And the nonsense about Russia’s mobilized troops being so inferior is wrong. These newly mobilized troops are all former troops who were on Reserve classification. And, even more important than that is that Ukraine forces have been decimated. The kill ratio throughout this “war” has been 10 Ukrainians for every one Russian. Ukraine is down to conscripting 16 yr. olds and 65 year olds and they are in the process of registering women.
If you have been following this saga I am sure you realize that just in the last week Russia has knocked out much of Ukraine’s energy system.
The foreigners who are “getting out of Dodge” are making the right call. Ukraine is not someplace anyone will want to be when the ground freezes in November.
It was strategic incompetence that the tanks rolled while there was a single light lit in Ukraine.
Indisputably so.
Maybe Russia has found her general.
“How’d they shoot down 18 of 33 of the missiles”
Nobody but you believes they did.
Because this “war” has actually been two entirely different “wars.”
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Well done and accurate account of events in that AO.
But, you have no more hope of breaking the indoctrination deadlock on the mind and will of those still on their knees in obedience to the idiocy pumped out by the msm and all its talking head minions, and the pretend “conservatives” on the web and “think tanks”, then you would have had when I was eyeball deep in that same indoc over the War in Iraq.
You can beat them to death with a clue bat and they’ll die just as clueless as when you started. I was of the same mindset once upon a time. I know this to be true.
You are correct, Putin did advocate for the bridge, and probably considered it a personal accomplishment.
However I'm not sure how much Putin's personal feelings hold sway in the Russian Military and Bureaucracy over his analytical leadership.
Putin has a long history and routine of working with, informing, listening to and reporting to the Russian Duma, Bureaucracy and Military.
However, Putin's significant popularity in Russia may pressure all those agencies to place more importance on his feelings.
The clowns on here.
I don’t believe they did. Not for a minute.
Amazing how folks on here can’t read.
Why hasnt russia provided close air support to its ground forces?....because the missiles shoiting down the drones and cruise missles would be shooting down the russian manned planes.
Actually, Biden is still partnering with Putin to nuke up Iran.
“None of the missiles were headed for high value military targets, only deliberately lobbed at civilian infrastructure, city-centers and power stations.”
Pootie Poot needs to throw some red meat to his war supporters, to distract from the catastrophic defeat they are now suffering Kherson.
The remnants of some of Russia’s most famed units - Spetsnaz, Airborne and Guards - are forced to abandon their equipment and try to sneak out in civilian clothes, hiding behind the skirts of women in a refugee flow.
They are preparing to blow the dam as well, for a grand finale.
Gee, wut if the $340 MILLION PER PLANE spent on the F-35s was just funneling billion$$ to the MIIC, was just buying sterile impotent white elephants to profit the Daddy Warbucks?
Wut if a very strong AAD nullifies ANY sooper dooper manned Top Gun fantasies?
“But, you have no more hope of breaking the indoctrination deadlock on the mind and will of those still on their knees in obedience to the idiocy pumped out by the msm and all its talking head minions, and the pretend “conservatives” on the web and “think tanks”, then you would have had when I was eyeball deep in that same indoc over the War in Iraq.
You can beat them to death with a clue bat and they’ll die just as clueless as when you started. I was of the same mindset once upon a time. I know this to be true.”
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You are absolutely right which is why I never make any posts for their benefit. In fact, I always ignore them and never respond to anything they post. I give them the attention they deserve: none..:-)
But, because they are posting BS nonstop on this board and there are still people here who honestly have not had the benefit of factual information I do post (and answer/respond) to anyone who seems sincerely unaware of the realities.
I appreciate what I have learned from the intelligent, civilized freepers here and so try to return the favor. When Travis posted that there are 750 United States military bases in 80 different countries I thought that can’t be right. It sent me on an intense research project that introduced this patriotic American to what America has become and why we are so disliked in much of the world.
“Red pills” are painful, but necessary if Americans are ever going to be able to defeat the Deep State coup that is destroying our country and reclaim government “of the people, by the people, for the people.”
The current unit cost of the F-35A is $78mil.
Comparable to a Gen 4 aircraft, new.
Thanks Cathi, concise.
If you trust any figures offered up by the lying MIIC.
Where NetFlix is “worth more in dollars” than total Russian natural gas production.
The numbers are becoming meaningless, boob bait for rubes.
Was Russia buffoonishly entrenching its army in Chernobyl, a nuclear accident zone, part of Putin’s masterplan? How about the ridiculous Russian army traffic jam outside Kyiv? The plan?
You have constructed a fantasy world where corrupt and incompetent Putinist Russia can do no wrong. I don’t feel sorry for you.
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