That makes America a part of Europe?
Nope.
So, for practical defense purposes, NATO makes Americans Europeans and Europeans Americans. It's all about “one for all and l for one.”
Nonsense.
Can you even imagine Europe spending a massive $70 billion of their money to defend America if America were invaded?
With the American president demanding that Europe not only supply America with free arms, he also demands that Europe pays for their entire budget and national expenses like Zelensky is doing right now?
Not gonna happen. Ever.
But reality remains true, regardless of what you say about it.
Reality remains 1) The US promised to defend Ukraine in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, 2) US weakness in the Afghanistan skedaddle helped provoke madman Putin's invasion of Ukraine and 3) the long term harm from a Ukraine defeat will be far greater than the $billions we're talking about now.
1. We did NOT promise to defend Ukraine, pay for all their arms and weapons for free and essentially pay for their entire domestic bills and budget like Zelensky is demanding. That's NUTS.
2. Dementia Joe's surrender in Afghanistan to the Taliban after 20 years of fighting was terrible, yes.
But we went to Afghanistan to take out Al Queda after 9/11. We were defending ourselves not fighting another country's war.
3. There is no “long term harm” to America from Ukraine signing a peace deal with Russia now, instead of putting the whole world at risk of nuclear war.
Ukraine is not that important for the fate of humanity tpo dumped into the garbage for.
For purposes of national defense, we are Europeans and they are Americans. Get used to it.
Nope.
And I have lived in Europe before. Europeans in general do NOT consider themselves Americans in any way.
The have looked down in Americans for a very long time.
Homelessness in San Francisco has NOTH8NG to do with a lack of money, and EVERYTHING to do with insane Democrat party politics.
All the money in the world won't help those homeless until insane Democrats are voted out of office.
Forget about "all the money in the world". Just give me that $70 Billion and I'll get every homeless person in San Francisco a real home to live at.
Ukraine was invaded, unprovoked, by a madman who must not succeed in such behavior, or we will see much, much more of it.
Ukraine was invaded, yes.
But was it totally unprovoked?
Nope.
You think America for example, would sit idly by if Russia was making moves to build a military base in Mexico?
How'd Nikita Khrushchev’s Cuban missile build up go for example?
Not to mention countries are regularly invaded throughout the world. We have no business running ourselves into massive debts defending every country that is invaded.
Sure, but Americans are the leaders because we contribute the most.
The world works better when we lead.
Americans will not like the world where madman Putin and the Xi-snake can roam and invade at will.
SmokingJoe: "1. We did NOT promise to defend Ukraine, pay for all their arms and weapons for free and essentially pay for their entire domestic bills and budget like Zelensky is demanding. That's NUTS.*
We certainly did guaranty Ukraine's sovereignty.
Of course it would have been MUCH cheaper just to deter madman Putin, as Pres. Trump did.
But when weakness and stupidity rob deterence of its power, then, sadly, we have to do what it takes, as we promised.
SmokingJoe: "2. Dementia Joe's surrender in Afghanistan to the Taliban after 20 years of fighting was terrible, yes."
One of the worst parts of it is, that it provoked madman Putin to think, now is the best chance he'll ever have to do what he wants to Ukraine.
SmokingJoe: "3. There is no “long term harm” to America from Ukraine signing a peace deal with Russia now, instead of putting the whole world at risk of nuclear war.
Ukraine is not that important for the fate of humanity tpo dumped into the garbage for."
There is huge long term harm to letting madman Putin get what he wants through naked aggression.
That harm will come to Taiwan and any other small countries threatened by crazy dictators.
SmokingJoe: "And I have lived in Europe before. Europeans in general do NOT consider themselves Americans in any way. The have looked down in Americans for a very long time."
Regardless of what some Europeans may or may not think of us, the NATO alliance makes us "one country" for defense purposes.
Your rants against NATO do not change that.
SmokingJoe: "Ukraine was invaded, yes.
But was it totally unprovoked?
Nope."
Totally unprovoked in any sane sense.
SmokingJoe: "You think America for example, would sit idly by if Russia was making moves to build a military base in Mexico?
How'd Nikita Khrushchev’s Cuban missile build up go for example?"
Cuba is a good example -- what did we do?
First, there were actual missiles in Cuba, not just some discussions about MAYBE an alliance.
Second, we didn't invade Cuba, instead we dealt directly with the Soviets.
The reason is, unlike madman Putin who wants to annex Ukraine, we only wanted Soviet missiles out of Cuba.
As for Russian bases near us, they are/were in Cuba for many decades, and what did we do about it?
Effectively nothing.
And you compare madman Putin to us? Why?