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To: BroJoeK
Your words, “corrupt, sleazy, woke” certainly define the Biden administration and madman Putin's dictatorship in Russia.
I've seen no evidence those words describe anybody in Ukraine.

You must be living on Mars if you missed all the news about corruption in Ukraine and corruption involving Joe and Hunter Biden in Ukraine over the past 8 years. You missed the Hunter Biden laptop too?

By my count Europeans have contributed about 40% of total aid to Ukraine.
That roughly corresponds to the EU GDP compared to the USA GDP.

You are totally missing the point.
US contribution to ANY war in Ukraine should be exactly ZERO.
We've wasted enough money fighting wars in Europe since WWI and WW@. Let the Europeans take care of themselves for a change.

The US would be foolish beyond all foolishness to scrap our NATO alliance at a time when it most serves our interests in blocking madman Putin's imperialist ambitions in Ukraine.

Again, Ukraine is NOT a part of NATO.
And NATO itself is long past its sell by date after the Warsaw Pact was disbanded.
Its the height of stupidity to squander $70 Billion and counting on yet another war in Europe, when we have serious economic problems at home right now.

Sorry, I know our leaders are abjectly stupid, but even they are not that stupid, FRiend.

Stupid is wasting VAST sums of our money on some country in Eastern Europe that we have no alliance with or commitment to, while leaving our own borders unprotected and taken over by Mexican drug lords.

164 posted on 10/24/2022 7:55:03 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe
SmokingJoe: "You must be living on Mars if you missed all the news about corruption in Ukraine and corruption involving Joe and Hunter Biden in Ukraine over the past 8 years. You missed the Hunter Biden laptop too?*

No, I missed none of that, but the Bidens are one family out of, what, 330 million Americans?
One corrupt family does not make the whole country corrupt -- even if you include the corrupt Obamas & Clinton's, you still can't tar the whole country for their misdeeds.
Same with Ukraine -- indeed, Zelenski was elected largely because Ukrainians believed he was NOT corrupted.

And who anywhere is more corrupt than Putin's Russia?
So I don't think alleged corruption of small numbers in a country is an argument for or against anything.

What matters is: madman Putin's naked aggression must not succeed.

SmokingJoe: "US contribution to ANY war in Ukraine should be exactly ZERO.
We've wasted enough money fighting wars in Europe since WWI and WW@.
Let the Europeans take care of themselves for a change."

The consequences of a Putin victory will be global, including Taiwan and any other small country a brutal dictator wants to conquer.
So it's not "just Europe" -- if we stop, or fail to stop, aggression in Ukraine, that will serve as the pattern for other dictators.

SmokingJoe: "And NATO itself is long past its sell by date after the Warsaw Pact was disbanded,"

In what way is KGB Putin"s Russia today different from the old KGB Soviet Union, pray tell?

SmokingJoe: "Stupid is wasting VAST sums of our money on some country in Eastern Europe that we have no alliance with or commitment to, while leaving our own borders unprotected and taken over by Mexican drug lords."

The US could end our border problem tomorrow, if our leaders wanted to, but they don't, and so it will continue until we elect new leaders.

Really, really stupid is letting naked aggression win just because it changed its name from "KGB Soviet Union" to "KGB Russia".
Regardless of whatever name, it's still naked aggression and must be stopped or we will see much more of it very soon.

177 posted on 10/25/2022 10:39:04 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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