Again, NATO does NOT make America a part of Europe like you claimed.
And 2, Ukraine is not even a part of NATO.
We have ZERO obligations to waste $70 billion of money that we borrowed on a country like Ukraine.
So here are the real numbers — US GDP (nominal) is six times larger than Germany's.
Irrelevant.
Doesn't change the fact that Ukraine is NOT our obligation, and Ukraine is not a part of NATO, and its not up to America to go squandering vast amounts of borrowed money on yet another European country to save them in yet another war.
Let the Europeans sort out their own mess.
Homeless camps in San Francisco are a function of local and California state politics, they have nothing to do with Federal budgets.
That $70 Billion we are wasting on Ukraine, would get a home for every single homeless person in San Francisco and the whole of California and more.
You see, those are OUR citizens versus Ukraine who are not our citizens, don't pay American taxes and to whom we owe ZERO obligations.
Our responsibility comes as a signatory to the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, as the leader of NATO and, arguably since it was our inexcusable weakness in the Afghanistan skedaddle which directly provoked madman Putin's invasion — we helped make it and break it, we should help fix it.
No it doesn't.
I had a look at the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. I did not see any part that said we should borrow tens of billions of dollars we don't have to save Ukraine's sorry butt, if they get themselves into yet another war.
Its nonsense for Zelensky to keep demanding we pay for his war and for rebuilding his country.
Let him go mooch on someone else for a change and go take a bloody jump.
NATO allies are intended to act as one in their common defense.
So, for practical defense purposes, NATO makes Americans Europeans and Europeans Americans. It's all about "one for all and l for one."
The fact is that no sane person wants madman Putin to win, or wants to be responsible for Ukraine being defeated.
The only argument against that makes sense to me is the one made be Republicans like Rand Paul and Jim Jordan, namely, that we need to be more certain that our aid is actually going for its intended purpose.
I agree and expect them to do that starting next year.
I also expect Pres. Trump to negotiate a just peace there, starting in 2025.
But in the meantime, we have to do the best we can with what we have.
SmokingJoe "We have ZERO obligations to waste $70 billion of money that we borrowed on a country like Ukraine."
Sure, you can close your eyes to reality all you want and deny its existence as much as you wish.
But reality remains true, regardless of what you say about it.
Reality remains 1) The US promised to defend Ukraine in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, 2) US weakness in the Afghanistan skedaddle helped provoke madman Putin's invasion of Ukraine and 3) the long term harm from a Ukraine defeat will be far greater than the $billions we're talking about now.
SmokingJoe: "Let the Europeans sort out their own mess."
For purposes of national defense, we are Europeans and they are Americans. Get used to it.
SmokingJoe: "That $70 Billion we are wasting on Ukraine, would get a home for every single homeless person in San Francisco and the whole of California and more."
Once again, "You know nothing, Jon Snow."
Homelessness in San Francisco has NOTH8NG to do with a lack of money, and EVERYTHING to do with insane Democrat party politics.
All the money in the world won't help those homeless until insane Democrats are voted out of office.
SmokingJoe: "if they get themselves into yet another war."
Ukraine was invaded, unprovoked, by a madman who must not succeed in such behavior, or we will see much, much more of it.
Then the costs will not just be a few $billions.