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Stigma and discrimination against people with HIV are as big an issue as ever
AIDS Map ^ | 20 October 2022 | Gus Cairns

Posted on 10/21/2022 7:20:46 AM PDT by fwdude

Preliminary results from a survey of stigma and discrimination conducted by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) show that people living with HIV in Europe are as likely to have experienced stigma in recent years as a decade ago. This is particularly the case with some types of stigma experienced in healthcare settings, where the fear of stigma, and to some extent the reality, are if anything stronger than ever. These early results were announced at the fifth Standards of Care meeting organised by the European AIDS Clinical Society in Brussels last week.

The survey was devised in collaboration with three community organisations: the European AIDS Treatment Group (EATG), AIDS Action Europe, and the UK's National AIDS Trust.

(Excerpt) Read more at aidsmap.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: hiv; homosexualagenda
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Poor stigma. What did it ever do to anyone to earn such a caustic condemnation (except for protecting society through unwritten laws of conduct.)
1 posted on 10/21/2022 7:20:46 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

I guess these AIDS organizations are losing fundraising steam so they have to start creating scare tactic ads again.


2 posted on 10/21/2022 7:24:49 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: fwdude

With all the attention on the ChiCom WuHuFlu, The Red Ribbon Gang must be feeling sort of left out.

So gotta they dig this up and get people to understand “We’re still here!”?

Burn it all down.


3 posted on 10/21/2022 7:27:10 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: fwdude

There they go again. Commie RATS stirring up the crap just before the elections. With HIPAA and all, how do the “discriminators” know somebody has AIDS?


4 posted on 10/21/2022 7:27:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Veto Beto, FJB.)
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To: fwdude

Stigma and discrimination of (fill in the balnk- could be a ything such as ...) Christians and God’s word by gay people is an issue as ever.


5 posted on 10/21/2022 7:29:44 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: fwdude
Larry Kramer, Pioneering AIDS Activist And Writer, Dies At 84.
6 posted on 10/21/2022 7:29:58 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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...how do the “discriminators” know somebody has AIDS?

They tell us - incessantly.

Unless they want to have sex with us.

7 posted on 10/21/2022 7:35:44 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: Bob434

Oh, but all stigma and discrimination is not equal.


8 posted on 10/21/2022 7:37:05 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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Stigma and discrimination against people with HIV are as big an issue as ever

It is not an issue at all. F@ggots should be ostracized from normal society. They are perverts and they are abnormal. That they get nasty diseases is an inevitable part of their lifestyle.

These people should be discriminated against, and nobody should give a crap when they die. They are a piece of evil that the world is better off without.

9 posted on 10/21/2022 7:41:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Strong words, but I don’t disagree with them. Thanks for the refreshing shot of truth. WE need more of that.


10 posted on 10/21/2022 7:42:31 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I'll temper your sentiment with a few conditional caveats.

First, there are two types of people with HIV/AIDS:
- those who acquired it willfully through illicit, perverted sexual behavior
- those who contract it through no fault of their own, through medical procedures involving blood products unknowingly infected, or through relations with a spouse who is unknowningly infected.

The later group most definitely deserve our sympathies, as long as they do not become advocates of the behavior which is the main vector of the disease.

The former group are as condemnable as you describe. But, if any of them convert to the truth, and disclaim their former life as wicked, I can have compassion on them.

11 posted on 10/21/2022 7:46:59 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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Sorry they have AIDS, don’t want to be their “blood brother.”


12 posted on 10/21/2022 7:54:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: fwdude

Yep, just like for typhoid.


13 posted on 10/21/2022 8:22:54 AM PDT by GingisK
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Pretty good post.
There's another set of (1st world) AIDS patients and that's IV drug addicts. Spouses who transmitted AIDS to spouses are usually addicts.
Spouses of addicts and blood transfer patients are rare occurrences in the AIDS stats I've read (used to be a hobby of mine). I haven't the Global AIDS updates for a while so that info may be out of date.
14 posted on 10/21/2022 9:19:34 AM PDT by Varda
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From the article:

A smaller survey conducted recently in Ireland, largely answered by healthcare workers who were not HIV specialists, found that although 83% claimed knowledge of 'Undetectable = Untransmittable' (U=U) and treatment as prevention, 40% said they would still be nervous about drawing blood from a person with HIV. Many took unnecessary precautions such as wearing gloves or even two pairs of gloves at all times when treating people with HIV.

Sorry, but this "U = U" crap needs to be exposed for the fallacy it is. First of all, studies involved in developing this meme suffer from the Hawthorne Effect, where people behave differently when they know they are being watched, and are much more apt to be on their best behavior, taking precautions they wouldn't take in a real-world environment. We really don't know that undetectable IS untransmittable, only that it fulfills the narrative.

Secondly, "undetectable" is not a static state of infection. People with HIV are constantly in flux regarding their viral load, as medicine doses are unwittingly missed (perfect adherence is a fairy tale,) the virus mutates to a form more immune to the current medications, or a new virus variant is introduced through subsequent sexual exposures. The most at-risk populations are tested for their HIV viral levels at 3-month intervals at most. Who knows what has transpired in their status during that 3 months between checkups?

15 posted on 10/21/2022 9:28:36 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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Many took unnecessary precautions such as wearing gloves...

They're talking about a blood draw. There is nothing "unnecessary" about sterile procedure during a blood draw. AIDS isn't the only disease in the world and activists need to stop acting like it is.

16 posted on 10/21/2022 9:31:24 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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GOOD! Embarrassing crap like that aught to be kept private. I am a human being and will use any chink in your armor I can find. It’s even easier if you just give me the ammo.


17 posted on 10/21/2022 10:38:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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Too bad. Live in SF instead of Europe. I don’t care


18 posted on 10/21/2022 11:16:33 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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AIDS isn't the only disease in the world and activists need to stop acting like it is.

But it's a disease that is specific to THEM, and they're "special."

19 posted on 10/21/2022 11:27:28 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: Delta 21

Why is it even necessary to tell someone you have AIDS? This is what I don’t get. They get the ultra-special protection of their privacy (they don’t even need to tell sexual partners they are infected) and modern treatment protocols make it highly unlikely to pass it on to sexual partners. So, why the pressing need of openness?


20 posted on 10/21/2022 11:30:23 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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