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'Weak' Vladimir Putin is turning to 'deeply irresponsible' nuclear rhetoric because he has 'few options left'...
MAILONLINE ^ | 19 October 2022 | MATT POWELL

Posted on 10/19/2022 1:41:15 PM PDT by dennisw

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To: ought-six

Sinking boomers and/or shooting down nuclear bombers in peacetime is the beginning of nuclear war, don’t fool yourself. A nuclear power will not sit and watch their nuclear arsenal be neutralized by ANY means.

You cannot assure a win by striking first. The entire system is designed to remove that option.


101 posted on 10/19/2022 5:13:52 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: dennisw
Polish MEP tweets "thank you USA" and then deletes tweet
102 posted on 10/19/2022 5:31:28 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ought-six
Yeah, you can. For instance, our GBU-type penetrators and “bunker busters” as well as the AGM-130 and BLU-109 were designed for just such targets. None of those weapons are nuclear.

So tell us, have any of those have actually taken out Russian nuclear silos before? And how do you suppose Russia would react to anyone attacking their nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded they do?

Again, no. As I showed above, nuclear weapons are not necessary to take out hardened targets such as silos.

Except you haven't actually done anything of the sort.
See above.

103 posted on 10/19/2022 5:33:29 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: JustaTech

“Sinking boomers and/or shooting down nuclear bombers in peacetime is the beginning of nuclear war, don’t fool yourself.”

Not necessarily: It depends on how may bombers or how many boomers were taken out. But at the very least that sure as hell would be a provocation.

“A nuclear power will not sit and watch their nuclear arsenal be neutralized by ANY means.”

Well, there is a difference between an arsenal and a couple warheads. The latter may or may not trigger a nuclear response; the former certainly would.

“You cannot assure a win by striking first.”

Hence, the purpose of MAD.


104 posted on 10/19/2022 5:37:11 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: SmokingJoe
“So tell us, have any of those have actually taken out Russian nuclear silos before?”

Now you are merging into the ridiculous lane, because we haven't ever been in a war with Russia or the Soviet Union.

However, we have conducted exercises on target silos and other hardened targets we designed and built for that very purpose. That's how we test our systems: To see if they perform appropriately.

“And how do you suppose Russia would react to anyone attacking their nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded they do?”

The same way we would. That's why we ignore such statements, and have a little talk with whomever made it.

“Except you haven't actually done anything of the sort.
See above.”

Except I have. Do you think we'd design, develop and build a system and never test it? We wouldn't bring them into our inventory if they haven't been tested and found to perform as expected.

It's obvious you have never served in anyone's military. Or, you are just incredibly naiive.

105 posted on 10/19/2022 5:47:35 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Now you are merging into the ridiculous lane, because we haven't ever been in a war with Russia or the Soviet Union.

However, we have conducted exercises on target silos and other hardened targets we designed and built for that very purpose. That's how we test our systems: To see if they perform appropriately.

So the answer is NO?

Do you think we'd design, develop and build a system and never test it? We wouldn't bring them into our inventory if they haven't been tested and found to perform as expected.

So try it on Russian nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded and see what happens to you.
Chuckle.

106 posted on 10/19/2022 6:28:05 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

You are a walking, breathing non-sequitur. How do you function on a daily basis without assistance? You are kin to the stegosaurus, a creature so dim it was barely aware it was even alive.

I have shot down every one of your statements and you are so unbelievably dense you don’t even realize it.

God help us if you are a representative sample of what this country will have to deal with going forward.


107 posted on 10/19/2022 6:48:25 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Its always fun to see the Ukraine/Zelensky fanatics foam at the mouth.
108 posted on 10/19/2022 6:57:32 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

“Its always fun to see the Ukraine/Zelensky fanatics foam at the mouth”

Nice try, son.


109 posted on 10/19/2022 7:33:40 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Why, thanks.


110 posted on 10/19/2022 8:00:12 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: ought-six
Americans are furious! Zelensky demands more money from the US for the war with Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ljjcyWROFI

111 posted on 10/19/2022 8:27:56 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: ansel12

Putin gave the first nuking threat on the day he first invaded and then 3 days later put his nuclear forces on alert.
“Feb 27, 2022 9:38 AM EDT
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — In a dramatic escalation of East-West tensions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces put on high alert”
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I missed this. I thought Poot and his Rus-TV gofers, performance artists, started their nuke’em good (UK, EU included) threats 2-3 months ago. When the Rus war started stalling and pooping out.


112 posted on 10/19/2022 8:34:26 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

No, it is just that the nuclear threats have been constant.

Putting his nuke forces on alert on day 3 of his attack was extraordinarily threatening.


113 posted on 10/19/2022 8:40:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw

The US and NATO should not overreach in areas that have traditionally crossed that grey line to nuclear decent.


114 posted on 10/20/2022 5:09:17 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: EEGator

I agree with the article’s reasoning:

“He (Putin) has few options left. Hence, the nuclear rhetoric,’ he said during a speech.

‘And while this is worrying and deeply irresponsible, it is a sign of weakness, which is precisely why the international community needs to remain strong and united.’ “


115 posted on 10/20/2022 9:51:28 PM PDT by Sunsong
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