Posted on 10/19/2022 1:41:15 PM PDT by dennisw
Vladimir Putin has been accused of using 'deeply irresponsible' nuclear rhetoric Though Chief of the Defence Staff Tony Radakin said 'it is a sign of weakness'
Russian president Vladimir Putin has been criticised for 'deeply irresponsible' nuclear rhetoric, as fears grow that he may make a show of force using a nuke over the Black Sea.
Last month Putin said he was ready to use nuclear weapons if necessary to defend Russia's 'territorial integrity' and yesterday Russia said seized Ukrainian lands are under its nuclear protection.
The threatening statements are believed to have increased in frequency due to Putin having 'few options left' after weeks of humiliating losses to Ukraine on the battlefield.
Today, Chief of the Defence Staff Tony Radakin urged the international community to remain united against what he called Russian President Vladimir Putin's 'deeply irresponsible' nuclear rhetoric.
'He (Putin) has few options left. Hence, the nuclear rhetoric,' he said during a speech.
'And while this is worrying and deeply irresponsible, it is a sign of weakness, which is precisely why the international community needs to remain strong and united.'
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace flew to Washington on Tuesday for emergency talks with the Pentagon.
A third of Ukraine was left without power as the new head of Russia's armed forces Sergei Suvorikin, nicknamed 'General Armageddon', launched a series of missile and drone strikes.
Following the attack, Mr Wallace cancelled a meeting with MPs and travelled Washington DC to discuss 'security concerns'.
A security source told The Sun that 'the threat has increased recently'.
Junior defence minister James Heappey told Sky News that Mr Wallace was in Washington 'having the sort of conversations that - beyond belief, really - the fact that we're at a time when these sort of conversations are necessary'.
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Sinking boomers and/or shooting down nuclear bombers in peacetime is the beginning of nuclear war, don’t fool yourself. A nuclear power will not sit and watch their nuclear arsenal be neutralized by ANY means.
You cannot assure a win by striking first. The entire system is designed to remove that option.
So tell us, have any of those have actually taken out Russian nuclear silos before? And how do you suppose Russia would react to anyone attacking their nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded they do?
Again, no. As I showed above, nuclear weapons are not necessary to take out hardened targets such as silos.
Except you haven't actually done anything of the sort.
See above.
“Sinking boomers and/or shooting down nuclear bombers in peacetime is the beginning of nuclear war, don’t fool yourself.”
Not necessarily: It depends on how may bombers or how many boomers were taken out. But at the very least that sure as hell would be a provocation.
“A nuclear power will not sit and watch their nuclear arsenal be neutralized by ANY means.”
Well, there is a difference between an arsenal and a couple warheads. The latter may or may not trigger a nuclear response; the former certainly would.
“You cannot assure a win by striking first.”
Hence, the purpose of MAD.
Now you are merging into the ridiculous lane, because we haven't ever been in a war with Russia or the Soviet Union.
However, we have conducted exercises on target silos and other hardened targets we designed and built for that very purpose. That's how we test our systems: To see if they perform appropriately.
“And how do you suppose Russia would react to anyone attacking their nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded they do?”
The same way we would. That's why we ignore such statements, and have a little talk with whomever made it.
“Except you haven't actually done anything of the sort.
See above.”
Except I have. Do you think we'd design, develop and build a system and never test it? We wouldn't bring them into our inventory if they haven't been tested and found to perform as expected.
It's obvious you have never served in anyone's military. Or, you are just incredibly naiive.
However, we have conducted exercises on target silos and other hardened targets we designed and built for that very purpose. That's how we test our systems: To see if they perform appropriately.
So the answer is NO?
Do you think we'd design, develop and build a system and never test it? We wouldn't bring them into our inventory if they haven't been tested and found to perform as expected.
So try it on Russian nuclear silos like Zelensky demanded and see what happens to you.
Chuckle.
You are a walking, breathing non-sequitur. How do you function on a daily basis without assistance? You are kin to the stegosaurus, a creature so dim it was barely aware it was even alive.
I have shot down every one of your statements and you are so unbelievably dense you don’t even realize it.
God help us if you are a representative sample of what this country will have to deal with going forward.
“Its always fun to see the Ukraine/Zelensky fanatics foam at the mouth”
Nice try, son.
Why, thanks.
Putin gave the first nuking threat on the day he first invaded and then 3 days later put his nuclear forces on alert.
“Feb 27, 2022 9:38 AM EDT
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — In a dramatic escalation of East-West tensions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces put on high alert”
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I missed this. I thought Poot and his Rus-TV gofers, performance artists, started their nuke’em good (UK, EU included) threats 2-3 months ago. When the Rus war started stalling and pooping out.
No, it is just that the nuclear threats have been constant.
Putting his nuke forces on alert on day 3 of his attack was extraordinarily threatening.
The US and NATO should not overreach in areas that have traditionally crossed that grey line to nuclear decent.
I agree with the article’s reasoning:
“He (Putin) has few options left. Hence, the nuclear rhetoric,’ he said during a speech.
‘And while this is worrying and deeply irresponsible, it is a sign of weakness, which is precisely why the international community needs to remain strong and united.’ “
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