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Russia Has Already Lost the War and the Map of the World Is Being Redrawn Because of It
Pj media ^ | Rick Moran

Posted on 10/14/2022 7:09:44 PM PDT by NoLibZone

After the two world wars in the 20th century, mapmakers were kept busy redrawing boundaries. Empires disappeared, new countries were born, and power alliances shifted radically.

No matter what happens in Ukraine going forward, a weakened Russia cannot “win” in any conventional sense of the word. They may gain a little territory, but at such a horrific cost in money, men, and prestige that their status as a “superpower” will be questioned — even though their nuclear stockpile will (hopefully) remain intact.

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To: cranked

Actually those are facts. But I see you just have name calling...which means you already lost.


21 posted on 10/14/2022 7:37:13 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Dutch Boy

Do not believe what you hear or see—Its ALL propaganda. Both sides do it —it is the nature of war.


22 posted on 10/14/2022 7:39:38 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: for-q-clinton

They are not facts, at all.

Let me give one example of your non-facts...you spewed:
“Russian military has never been good or even adequate. They lose more men/women than the other side every time.”

And yet...

‘Ukrainian General estimates Kiev’s losses at hundreds of thousands since Feb’
https://tass.com/politics/1501881

‘Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/

‘In Ukraine’s South, Fierce Fighting and Deadly Costs’
https://archive.ph/MtHyd#selection-383.0-383.52

“Kharkov Offensive: “You Can Always Regain Territory—You Cannot Regain Human Lives.” - Jacques Baud”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6GFaOQOpEs

“The Limits of Ukraine’s Offensive and the High Price to Pay When it Ends”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONjlORXdFQ

...

As compared to:

Russian casualties as of October 7: 7184
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng


23 posted on 10/14/2022 7:40:00 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Dutch Boy

Excellent observations. It certainly good be either factor.

If we have been lied to about Russia’s military strength, I wonder for how long. As one who reads economic history from time to time, I remember problems that Russia had with storage and transportation of grain. In the 1970’s and 1980’s about 1/3 of Russia grain was lost due to poor storage and transport. That is a lot of grain.


24 posted on 10/14/2022 7:40:06 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: for-q-clinton

A win is a win. Regardless of the cost to achieve it.


25 posted on 10/14/2022 7:45:25 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Wrong. A win with no causalities is better than a win with 100% causalities. You never served in the military, did you?


26 posted on 10/14/2022 7:46:57 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: cranked

I see you’re focused on Russian only news sources. How about focusing on the fact. Meaning history. The current war is not known. Hint: there is one conflict they did ok in. See if you can find it.


27 posted on 10/14/2022 7:47:58 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: for-q-clinton

Nice way to acknowledge you were talking out your arse.


28 posted on 10/14/2022 7:48:35 PM PDT by cranked
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To: NoLibZone

Russia (and the USSR before that), was never a superpower. A superpower without a strong economy, is not a superpower. The USSR (now Russia), is a third world country economically. Even Italy and France, have stronger economies, and California alone is a stronger economy than Russia.

The world has been misled about what constitutes a superpower, and the only thing that defined Russia as a superpower, has been their nuclear weapons arsenal. Otherwise, Russia cannot sustain a long-drawn-out conventional war; that’s why they use the threat of using nuclear weapons.

The threat of using nuclear weapons is the only scary part about Russia, but then, using nuclear weapons would mean the end of Russia, and hopefully, there are still some sane people in Russia that can ‘handle’ Putin and his threats.


29 posted on 10/14/2022 7:49:25 PM PDT by adorno
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To: for-q-clinton

The U.S has only won two hot war against any enemy of consequence since WW2.


30 posted on 10/14/2022 7:49:44 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Dutch Boy

I think Russia is keeping this going.

Disrupting the NWO.


31 posted on 10/14/2022 7:51:24 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Syria
Libya
Iraq
Afghanistan - the longest war in US history.

All second and third rate powers......


32 posted on 10/14/2022 7:52:08 PM PDT by cranked
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To: for-q-clinton

Hypothetically yes. But most wars involve casualties.


33 posted on 10/14/2022 7:53:29 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: cranked

I was thinking GW1 and Serbia


34 posted on 10/14/2022 7:54:19 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Yep, can include them too. My bad.


35 posted on 10/14/2022 7:54:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Yep, both sides are distractions. Intentional disinformation to make the situation seem weak when strong, strong when weak.

If you are losing make yourself look to be winning and vice versa.

So many contradictions you shouldn’t believe anything.

For instance if Russia is almost defeated why does Ukraine need our money? We already give them arms.


36 posted on 10/14/2022 7:55:49 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: packagingguy

Been kind of saying this from Day 3 of this conflict.

Never seen the utter amount of lopsided BS being put out by the media in my entire life than with this particular war/conflict.


37 posted on 10/14/2022 7:57:58 PM PDT by cranked
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To: for-q-clinton

Not being able to handle massive casualties since Korea in war, is why the U.S turned to the notion of winning wars from the air. It has been succesful on occasions, GW1,Serbia and Libya. Too many body bags is the U.S achilles heel. And determined foes know that.


38 posted on 10/14/2022 8:00:57 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: NoLibZone
"Russia Has Already Lost the War"


39 posted on 10/14/2022 8:01:45 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Long Jon No Silver

I should add. In the age of T.V and the internet compounds it for the U.S.


40 posted on 10/14/2022 8:02:37 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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