Posted on 10/14/2022 4:23:17 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Josep Borrell suggests Putin ‘cannot afford bluffing’ and says those backing Ukraine — including NATO and the US — ‘are not bluffing neither’
BRUSSELS — EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warned Moscow on Thursday that its forces would be “annihilated” by the West’s military response if Russian President Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine.
“Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the Member States, and the United States and NATO are not bluffing neither,” Borrell said at the opening of a Diplomatic Academy in Brussels.
“Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian Army will be annihilated,” Borrell added.
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Except the KGB doesn't exist in Russia anymore. The real KGB is now in America and is called the FBI.
KGB-protégé Saddam Hussein had 98% approval. He also lost a devastating war. In the end he was hanged by the grown children of dissidents he had murdered.
How many nukes did Saddam have? Zero.
Russia has by far the most powerful nuclear arsenal on the planet.
And the referendums in the conquered Russian majority Ukrainian territories were far more fair and balanced than the stolen elections that put the illegitimate Dementia Joe regime in power. Those Russians prefer being part of Russia to being terrorized by the Nazi Zelensky regime.
It makes sense to people who don't believe every bit of Russian propaganda they see and who understand the range of military options available to the EU and NATO.
The Russian army relies on antiquated logistics methods and disintegrates when the rail lines it depends on are not functioning.
Putin is already causing the Russian Army to be annihilated. You have to threaten things the threat recipient cares about.
The “EU” knows that. It’s interesting that threatening to annihilate the Russian Army is ok, but threatening the war-mongering leaders is not. Might boomerang, huh...
What is disconcerting is how the White House clown is talking about a nuclear exchange and not offering to defuse the situation with negotiations. He even says negotiations are off the table. That is something new and extremely dangerous.
Regardless of what you think about the US presidential election in 2020, the referendums conducted by the Russian military during their invasion of Ukraine were less legitimate and wholly fake.
NOPE.
Decision making centers equates to every major NATO city and base.
Nobody wants nuke annihilation over Ukraine. Getting rid of Ukraine would be like getting rid of the covid crap.
A blessing.
The EU has never annihilated anything in their lives. The don't even have nukes as a body.
France has an independent nuclear arsenal, but they already declared they will never use their nukes to defend Ukraine .
Lets for a minute say Putin does Nuke Kiev. Erases it from the face of the Earth. What are the EU and NATO going to really do in response?
As far as I know, and I may be wrong, there is NO TREATY REQUIRING the EU and/or NATO to DIRECTLY DEFEND Ukraine against attack. There is no Article 5 per say. The very second any EU or NATO unit fires a single shot into Russia or against Russian troops, the EU and NATO will have declared WAR against Russia. Then watch all hell break loose.
The world already knows that Biden is a MORON, and that the EU and NATO hold the fate of Europe and the World in their hands. Do WE really want to bet our survival as a species on Euro-Weenies, Euro-Trash Elites and an 80yr old Dementia Patient who craps his pants??
That second photo is how Germans use their fingers to show the number 3.
Absolutely not!
Yup. Like school yard bullies. “I double-dog dare ya.”
If putin nukes Ukraine, he will die!
What makes you so sure, General Armchair?
Does it make sense to say you won’t nuke back if nuked? That was the head scratcher. Not sure how the “capabilities” you reference factor in post-nuke. Maybe before?
you wrote:
“FALSE.. utterly false.
Sure, The question is WHY do you accept Russian propaganda?”
Ok, it’s time for me to go there...
a) are we to assume there is no such thing as western propaganda ? (#covid #vaccines, etc)
b) How exactly are we getting Russian propaganda since literally everything out of Russia is block from our eyes and ears?
c) Why is it that EVERYTHING that isn’t negative against Russia, Putin, etc MUST be propaganda? (I hear this often, with no proof to back it up)
Next...
you wrote:
“...The Russian people risk imprisonment while their protests number in the 1,000’s...”
Well, the U.S still leads the WORLD in imprisonment of its citizens, and do I need to bring up the hundreds of J6 POW’s still in solidary confinement yet not conflicted of any crime? (Hey, think that might cut down in the number of protesters around here?) Or perhaps the folks who’ve been RAIDED for peacefully protesting abortion clinics.
And finally...
you wrote:
“...The Russian population, men, women & children, are racing to escape cross the nearest border!”
Assuming this is true... I’m going to ignore those reports about Mexico becoming irritated with all these California folks moving there. But I could just imagine #46 calling for conscription in this country and the resultant exodus from the U.S (like they wouldn’t 4F all the soy boys lining up anyway) . I mean after all, our recruitment goals are under 50%, and how many folks got 86’ed from the military for not falling for the (clearing my throat) US/WESTERN/CHINESE PROPAGANDA ABOUT THAT STUPID INOCCULATION PROGRAM? Ans: Over 60K.
Now, as long as I’m at it, with all these folks dropping zippers regarding nuke threats, it seems to me this all initiated with one individual requesting a pre-emptive nuclear first strike against Russia (spoiler alert: It wasn’t Putin). That person is still doing it, along with DEMANDING how Western countries (especially us) should empty our pockets to bankroll his regime unconditionally. From all that I know (saw this from a direct statement from ‘Putler’ on youtube responding directly to those threats from the above mentioned person, stating that Russia would respond in keeping with a doctrine that they’ve had since we were hiding under desks in elementary school.
Yeah, yeah, I know - Putin invaded Ukraine, so ANYTHING goes, right?.
Sure, right up until the first mushroom cloud. Meanwhile, let’s ignore that invasion at our OWN border, causing death and destruction across the country, out cities turning into tent-city war zones, while hiring 8.7 armed divisions to deal with that greatest threat to democracy - The American People.
Remember, those 87K IRS agents would have the power to draw from all the other agencies if/when needed from an administration hasn’t done ONE DAMN THING for the benefit of the American People so far.
Now, while I’m fuming, go ahead and call me a Putin lover, falling for Russian propaganda, etc. I am a Real American who cares about this country FIRST. That used to be the standard around here on FR, but I guess maybe #covid has done that much brain damage around here.
This county is falling apart, and Putin has NOTHING to do with it. We are doing this to ourselves, while having a former comedian in a tee-shirt tell that walking, talking justification for the 25th Amendment and the rest of why $30 trillon + us a ‘small sacrifice’ for the (let me get this right): The Liberal International Rules Based Order - did I get that right?
I’m tired. I’m frustrated. and I am sick and DAMN TIRED of working almost half the year just to be force to pay these SOB’s, but I need to get back to work
Have a nice day.
jimjohn - OUT.
thank you for that honest answer
I apologize, I was wrong
“Yeah, yeah, I know - Putin invaded Ukraine, so ANYTHING goes, right?.
“NO.ANYTHING DOES NOT GO.”
-no, let’s ignore that invasion at our OWN border, causing death and destruction across the country,
“NO, LET’S NOT IGNORE THE INVASION OF OUR OWN BORDER;”
WHAT CAN YOU & I DO? WE NEED TO APPLY PRESSURE ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND USE WISDOM NOT TO VOTE FOR PENCE, BIDEN, CLINTON, ETC.: LET I.C.E. DO THEIR JOB, LET POLICEMEN DO THEIR JOB, PROTECT OUT CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS FROM PREDATORS; THERE USED TO BE ACTIVIST GROUPS TO JOIN ON F.R.
-out cities turning into tent-city war zones,
while hiring 8.7 armed divisions to deal with that greatest threat to democracy; if/when needed from an administration hasn’t done ONE DAMN THING for the benefit of the American
People so far.
“NO, LET’S NOT IGNORE THIS CRAZY LACK OF LAW & ORDER: STOP HANDING OUT DRUGS & SYRINGES; START EXPORTING ILLEGALS [USE OUR MILITARY TO FLY, DRIVE, SHIP THEM MAKE TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES] & REMOVE PEOPLE FROM TENT CITIES. LET THEM JOIN THE ARMED SERVICES OR THEY HAD RELATIVES TO GO TO & PLACES TO LIVE BEFORE THEY CHOSE TO LOAF& DRUG-UP.
WE NEED COMMON SENSE FED BUDGET: DRILL FOR OIL; RE-INVEST IN COAL; THE LAWS ARE OB THE BOOKS.
- Now, while I’m fuming, go ahead and call me a Putin lover, falling for Russian propaganda, etc.
“NO, MOST EVERYONE ON F.R. WILL TELL YO, IF HONEST THAT I DON’T LABEL AND CALL NAMES. IN FACT, I MOSTLY DO NOT RESPOND THAT DO! I DO HONOR THE FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE TO DEFINE THEIR OWN OPINIONS: ESPECIALLY ON FREE REPUBLIC.
-I am a Real American who cares about this country FIRST.
This county is falling apart, and Putin has NOTHING to do with it.
“AGREE. CITIZENS NEED TO “ADULT” AND GET INVESTED IN RE-CREATING THIS EXCEPTIONAL NATION.
“I’m tired. I’m frustrated. and I am sick and DAMN TIRED of working almost half the year just to be force to pay these SOB’s, but I need to get back to work
Have a nice day.
HAVE A GREAT DAY, jimjohn :D
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