Ukraine turns abandoned Russian weaponry on Putin's forces

ITV News ^ | Oct 12, 2022 | John Ray

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

NATO defence ministers met today to discuss the recent wave of Russian missile strikes on Ukraine, and how to continue providing help.

But Russia itself is turning out to be an unexpected source of military hardware.

As Russian troops retreated, recently, they abandoned huge amounts of equipment, including battle tanks.

And as our correspondent John Ray reports, it's all being salvaged and put to good use.

[867V309]

surprising that all your ukrane crap, we still need to send them billions!

[buwaya]

I know, right? The US had to lend lease to those lazy Brits and Russians in WW2, in spite of them making their own stuff. No doubt Roosevelt let Biden take 10% back then too.

[Bullish]

Maybe they could have borrowed some from Afghanistan, I here they just got a few thousand tons of stuff.

[cranked]

Apples and oranges.

Ukraine is not a formalized ally of the US.
Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

But your bringing up Lend Lease which went to allies.
Irony never ends around here......

[buwaya]

Formal, informal, who cares. Just say de facto. Like North Vietnam was a de facto ally of the Soviet Union.

Im sure the Soviets werent nitpicking among themselves.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

“Lend Lease which went to allies”

“When war broke out in Europe in September 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared that while the United States would remain neutral in law, he could “not ask that every American remain neutral in thought as well.”

Roosevelt himself made significant efforts to help nations engaged in the struggle against Nazi Germany and wanted to EXTEND A HELPING HAND TO THOSE COUNTRIES THAT LACKED THE SUPPLIES necessary to fight”

SOURCE: https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/lend-lease

[Long Jon No Silver]

Probably on the dark web bazaar

[867V309]

Irony never ends around here......

buwaya thinks ukrane is on our side when it is actually on the deep state side.           just LOOK AT the dumbocrap media-----I rest my case.

[cranked]

The US alone has already spent cumulatively more on Ukraine than the entire Russian military budgets for 2021 and 2022.

All that “Lend Lease” to what avail?

“Kiev seeks $20B lending program from IMF - Zelensky”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4100137/posts

And as this war/conflict goes on and we, the US, keep dumping money into a European corruption blackhole, the more people will wake up to the BS and the BS steadily spouted the media concerning Ukraine....

A Pew Research poll shows that the share of Americans who are extremely or very concerned about a Ukrainian defeat fell from 55 percent in May to 38 percent in September.”

“Biden scrambles to avert cracks in pro-Ukraine coalition”
https://archive.ph/Uckd9#selection-273.0-273.56

[867V309]

a European corruption blackhole

ukrane

an American corruption blackhole

biden family

[escapefromboston]

Good we can stop giving them our money.

[Bullish]

here = hear on post #4. Dang voice dictation again.

[LeoWindhorse]

Is it true the head of FSB was car bombed near Miscow?

https://youtu.be/uKmAfc14a-E

[buwaya]

The deep state isnt what you think it is. Its not the satanic version of Sir Humphrey, from “Yes, Minister”. It is a subculture, and though different countries have similar subcultures of the in group vs the out, these are fundamentally different from each other.

The Spanish deep state is, for instance, conservative, not liberal. Thats why Madrid votes PP - their version of the US Republicans.

You have a legitimate deep state beef. But thats just a symptom. Your vastly bigger beef is the cultural-social divide between your subcultures. Thats the fault line along which your coming civil war will run. Other countries really dont have this divide.

In Europe the politics look very different. Eastern Europe hates and fears Russia. Conversely they also dislike “woke”, and resent the political centralizing of the EU. The Polish government, for instance, is effectively “MAGA”, Polish style. MPGA?

They are very much like you, but you lot seem insane to them on the Russian question.

[buwaya]

Its kept Ukraine from falling into Russian domination. A pretty cheap result at the price. The US spent even more on Afghanistan, annually, for absolutely no results.

[wannabegeek]

I don't know who're telling the truth.

I'm getting this copy&paste from DebkaFile Hebrew edition.

Russian missiles were launched towards Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine, and five other major cities in Ukraine in retaliation for the explosion at the Kerch Bridge, which leads from Russia to the Crimean Peninsula. Many Ukrainian fires and losses.

Oct 10, 2022 @ 12:58 pm The war in Ukraine , President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky , President of Russia Vladimir Putin ,

After Russian President Vladimir Putin convened, on the night of Sunday 9/10, the National Security Council and replaced the commander of the Russian forces in Ukraine and appointed the commander of the Russian Air Force General Sergey Surovikin to the position, the Russian forces launched a heavy flurry of missiles on a number of principalities in Ukraine, including The capital is Kiev. Russian missiles exploded in the city centers, Kyiv, Lviv close to the border with Poland, Ternopil, Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro, Lviv, Ternopil, Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro. High-rise buildings were damaged and caught fire, and there are many dead and wounded Ukrainians.
In Kiev, Russian missiles hit near the Ukrainian General Military Headquarters and near the office of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. Zelensky said in response, 'Because Russia is trying to wipe his country off the face of the earth,'Russia was trying to wipe the country off the face of the earth. He accused the Russians of using Iranian missiles and drones in an attempt to destroy the electricity production plants in Ukraine in order to leave it in the dark.
The city center of Kyiv was closed and the movement of vehicles and pedestrians was prohibited in it. Mayor Vitaly Klitschko said that "Critical civil infrastructure in Kyiv was damaged The
Russians did not try to hide that this extensive shelling was a response to the bombing of the Kartz Bridge leading from Russia to the Crimea by a truck bomb. On Monday, traffic, including trains, on the bridge resumed. The
Russian missile shelling involves Russian warships in the Black Sea that were launched at Cruise missiles in Ukraine  
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense issued a statement threatening to retaliate against the Russian missile attack.
Michael Brodsky, Israel's ambassador to Ukraine, wrote in a tweet on Twitter that the attacks on Kyiv are a 'dangerous escalation' - and emphasized that the Israeli embassy staff is safe. "We are concerned about the safety of our colleagues and friends in Kyiv and throughout Ukraine," he wrote.

[buwaya]

Very dubious.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

That is true. Russia sent missiles to attack civilians.

I find Denys Davydov updates accurate and shares both sides. He posts updates at least once daily. Because of his accent, I use closed captioning to help for clarity.
Update from Ukraine | Allies will close the sky of Ukraine | More soldiers were trained in UK
Youtube ^ | Oct 12, 2022 | Denys Davydov

Oct 12, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Ca9lIT8k4&list=RDCMUCpr-NNORb2UQYDD3k-w-OFg&start_radio=1

Also,

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

I have no confirmation yet of that information the Head of Russian Intelligence Was Killed in the Kremlin!

I have heard of a great political upheaval in Moscow for Putin & Kremlin. The Russian citizen and small political factions will have their voices heard especially against this “mobilization” one way or another.