Posted on 10/12/2022 8:04:14 AM PDT by Salohcin
More than 90,000 troops make up Russia’s “irrecoverable” military losses in Ukraine, as reported by the Russian media project iStories (or Vazhnye Istorii). One of the two sources of this information works in the FSB; the other is a former state security officer. [Emphasis added.]
“Irrecoverable losses” is a category that includes servicemen who were killed, went missing, died from their wounds or were disabled and cannot return to military service.
This new estimate is close to the figures stated earlier by the Pentagon and the British Defense Ministry. Last August, the Pentagon estimated that 70–80 thousand Russian troops had been killed or critically wounded since the start of the war. In September, the British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace stated that the Russian army’s total losses exceeded 80,000; of those, about 25,000 were thought to have been killed.
Damn, I thought it was 900,000 Russian casualties and 5,400 Ukrainian casualties.
All claims, from both sides, should be taken as propaganda until verified.
63,000 dead bodies are awfully hard to hide or dispose of.
There should be a plethora of pics and videos of them stacked like cordwood, especially from Ukrainian sources and especially in the newly conquered areas.
But, really nothing out these. The most I have seen in a few trucks with, maybe, 10 bodies in it. Or a couple caught in an ambush or artillery strike.
63,000 bodies. A full Yankee stadium.
Perhaps you could post Ukrainian and Russian losses to give some perspective and then it would be construed as being balanced.
If you count the 700,000 Russians that have fled the country as AWOL, then you’re almost there.
“63,000” isn’t just dead, it includes injured
so actual Russian dead are probably 15-20,000 (following the 3:1 or 4:1 rule-of-thumb)
it can’t be the claimed 6000, because Putin wouldn’t need to call up 300,000 replacements if it was only 6000 killed, and Russia wouldn’t be in retreat now
No - it is an international news site with “Russian language” journalists. Just more propaganda.
“63,000 dead bodies are awfully hard to hide or dispose of. There should be a plethora of pics and videos of them stacked like cordwood.”
For the last months it has largely been an artillery war. No pilling bodies in that sort of fight. Remains are stored in buckets.
The new numbers reported by Russian sources in article are 90,000 killed, disabled, or AWOL. If you assume (which is always dangerous) 1/4 of these are actual killed, it would be about 20,000 dead. The 63,000 killed was previously reported by the Ukrainian military and included in the article for context.
The independent group funded by BBC managed to track about 6000 through public records and open sources. Which closely corresponds to later published official numbers.
With one catastrophic, bad decision Putin negated all the progress Russia made evolving from 90 years of communist devastation. Putin has so debilitated the Russian nation that it now is a pliable cog in the globalist world order. Without nuclear weapons, it can no longer defend itself.
“Russia’s ‘irrecoverable losses’ in Ukraine: more than 90,000 troops dead, disabled, or AWOL”
Quite believable especially with Putin’s mobilisation fiasco.
The Russian people don’t want this war either.
Did you see this in today’s news:
-Russia ‘is rounding up HOMELESS people as part of its military mobilisation’: Men ‘are grabbed while queueing up for food and forced onto buses’
-Witnesses have described homeless men being loaded onto buses in Moscow
-They are then taken to military enlistment offices and made to sign up to fight
-Moscow recruitment officers also said to be targeting hotels for workers
-This comes weeks after Putin declared a ‘partial’ mobilisation
One thing brought up at the beginning of the war....Russia had some mobile crematorium unit that they were going to bring into the theater. They had no intention of digging graves or shipping bodies back into Russia.
They are Russian journalists writing from outside of Russia. Do you believe anyone inside Russia would be able to publish this without fear of a midnight visit from Putin’s security services? But you are free disregard it as you wish.
No worries. The Great Putin will defeat those Ukranazis!
It’s actually a joke the way the media reports deaths - both that of bombing and fighting in the battlefield.....as if this conflict is determined by how many dead bodies are counted.
but Russia plays this childish game of downplaying & denying any losses
* example - being routed at Kiev is falsely explained away as a “feint”
* example - the Moskva’s sinking by a missile strike is falsely explained as “catching on fire while being towed”
you see the pattern ... so any Russian losses should be multiplied by 3X or 4X to get the actual number
when you do that, you still get that 20,000 number, plus minus
“6000” is a joke
The site says “Russian language” journalists. And being outside Russia they are quite limited. More propaganda.
The real peril for Ukraine has been on display over the last two days–Russia’s hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles and air launched rockets mangling power nodes and military headquarters throughout Ukraine. The Russian strikes in the last two days significantly degraded Ukraine’s ability to supply electricity and critical heat to its major cities. The attacks also are disrupting Ukraine’s cell phone network and its ability to move troops and equipment from the west to the frontlines in the east.
Ukraine does not have a comparable capability to counter the Russian attacks. Moreover, the Russian missile barrage has highlighter the weakness, if not absence, of Ukraine’s anti-missile defense system. It is neither a mistake nor a coincidence that Russia’s strikes in major Ukrainian cities–more than 100 missiles– caused very few human casualties, especially on the civilian side of the ledger. Despite Ukrainian claims that Russia’s strikes killed civilians, the evidence suggests otherwise–Ukraine’s own anti-missile system failed to intercept the Russian targets and then fell to earth and hit apartments and schools.
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