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To: AZJeep

BS. The conflict is over a part of land which s not technically Armenia. It started before Ukraine if you pay attention.
The idea that Russia is not going to win in Ukraine is preposterous. The only question is how the win is going to look like. The original objective was that Ukraine leaves Donbas alone and drops NATO aspirations. It was very sensible to accept them for Ukraine which I think she was ready to do unless the West interfered. The goal was to use the conflict to inflict heavy losses on Russia and force a regime change where. It didn’t work as well.
I think now the Russian objective is to take over the pro-Russian areas oppressed by Ukraine and neuter the rest. They are more realistic than Western objectives towards Russia. Europe betted on the regime change and resuming of trade on more favorable terms with themselves in charge of the Russian resources. Now, they are in position of energy and material shortage and uncompetitive economy and no chance to resolve it any time soon. Russia is turning to China and India and doing great.


25 posted on 10/10/2022 10:45:42 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Yes, the conflict predates Russian aggression in Ukraine. But originally, Russian/Armenian forces were winning!
Now, unfortunately, they are loosing.
The original Russian objective was to take over the whole Ukraine. After they were defeated at Kiev, they backed off and decided to try just for the South.
Now, they are pretty much done for good.
If they do not stop soon, they will loose Kuban, Belgorod, even Smolensk.
Circassia will be free, and who knows, what else?


26 posted on 10/11/2022 1:17:14 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: NorseViking

You said Russia would conquer Germany and much of the EU months ago.


31 posted on 10/11/2022 3:40:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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