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To: NorseViking

Yes, the conflict predates Russian aggression in Ukraine. But originally, Russian/Armenian forces were winning!
Now, unfortunately, they are loosing.
The original Russian objective was to take over the whole Ukraine. After they were defeated at Kiev, they backed off and decided to try just for the South.
Now, they are pretty much done for good.
If they do not stop soon, they will loose Kuban, Belgorod, even Smolensk.
Circassia will be free, and who knows, what else?


26 posted on 10/11/2022 1:17:14 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep

Of course not. Your understanding of the issue is superficial and based on propaganda. Originally, Russia was okay without Ukraine, unless the Navi base in Crimea was threatened.
After Crimea joined Russia, the globalists encouraged Ukraine to attack Donbas with zugzwang on mind.
If Russia would not react, they would incite the right in Russia saying that Putin is weak and don’t care about oppressed kin. If he reacts then Russia is a black hat and aggressor.
Then were the Minsk accords, the rest is history.

Regarding Armenia we see the same zugzwang. If Russia intervenes, it is an aggressor and the enemy of Muslim world. If not, it doesn’t stand by the ally.

The anti-Russian Soros-kiddies and Pelosi visits the choice easier. Armenia’s value for the Russian security is about zilch. To throw it to the wolves is very sensible. It is going to teach others a lesson that NATO and Pelosi are nothing but Russia means business.


27 posted on 10/11/2022 1:51:42 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: AZJeep; NorseViking

You can’t say Russia/Armenia forces, since Russia is also an ally of Azerbaijan. Russia has never been all-in on helping Armenia, they are more like a broker between the sides. In recent years, they’ve moved more towards Azerbaijan.


29 posted on 10/11/2022 11:43:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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