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Trump Blames U.S. for 'Almost Forcing' Putin to Invade Ukraine
Newsweek ^ | 10/8/22 | ANDREW STANTON

Posted on 10/09/2022 4:23:41 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston

When you are presented with the two options of pick a wrong side or pick a wrong side then choosing to just opt out is the moral alternative. It is just that simple, there is absolutely no reason why one has TO PICK A SIDE if both sides are in the wrong.


21 posted on 10/09/2022 4:57:20 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
BOTH sides are wrong, two wrongs do not make a right.

Unfortunately the large majority of our political leadership has actively sided with the corrupt Zelenskyy to the tune of $70bn (+/-) US tax dollars.

22 posted on 10/09/2022 4:58:04 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: AndyJackson

Absolutely.


23 posted on 10/09/2022 4:58:17 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: sam_whiskey
There is a better side though

Well.... we're waiting. Siding with the globohomos and fighting for WEF style liberal democracy and the woke way is what has been killing all of us. It's hollowed out the US and the UK, turned the Canadians to mush... side.

24 posted on 10/09/2022 4:59:07 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Since everything is perfect in the US, we can worry about our non ally, the Ukraine...


25 posted on 10/09/2022 5:00:00 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: JonPreston

He’s right.

Just like we didn’t want Russian nukes in Cuba.


26 posted on 10/09/2022 5:00:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

Yep. I feel the same way.


27 posted on 10/09/2022 5:01:58 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: MulberryDraw

Remember our response to Sputnik - vast funding opportunities for technical schools across the countries and graduate stipends in math, science and engineering.

What is our response to our present crisis - woke education where calculus is racist. And Newton’s laws are gender normative [I don’t know what that means in case you were asking.]


28 posted on 10/09/2022 5:02:34 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: EEGator

See 28.


29 posted on 10/09/2022 5:03:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: iontheball

“NATO has nothing more to do with itself than to provoke conflict. Sort of like the bastards at the WEF who believe they’re are God and can revise man into some weird demonic AI robot. These people are crazy, possessed, and if we let them they will destroy the world and everything in it.”

And that is the true bigger picture of reality. Unfortunately a majority of the masses have been successfully brainwashed into total blindness to these facts.


30 posted on 10/09/2022 5:03:43 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: JonPreston
I think Trunp is way off base on this. Putin has long aimed at reassembling the former Soviet sphere of influence, with subjugation of Ukraine the key to further expansion into Europe, as it has been throughout Russian history. In addition, Ukraine was gradually improving economically and as a democracy and offered a dangerous example and inspiration for anti-Putin elements in Russia.

Putin, by surrounding himself with yes men unable to urge caution and restraint, was inevitably heading for a confrontation with the West. Nevertheless, were Trump in the White House, Putin would probably have held back from attacking Ukraine, knowing that Trump might urge talks and a deal of some sort but would not permit a direct attack on Ukraine.

31 posted on 10/09/2022 5:07:15 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: JonPreston

Trump is not a fool and does not make clear statements on things unless he thinks he will win the argument. So for Trump to come out and say what the deepstate thinks should be the quiet part speaks volumes about the American polity.


32 posted on 10/09/2022 5:07:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Men and women aren’t equal, and they never will be.
As far as Newton, I don’t have the slightest inkling WTF that is supposed to mean.
As for STEM, maybe most women don’t want STEM careers.
I try to convey to young men to learn a trade.
Linemen, HVAC, plumbing, electrician, crane operator, etc.


33 posted on 10/09/2022 5:08:19 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: JonPreston

Not if the price for peace is surrender to Russia. That’s not peace and will not lead to peace in the future.


34 posted on 10/09/2022 5:08:31 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength. )
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To: JonPreston

“He claimed, without evidence, that the Ukraine invasion would have “never” happened if he were still president.”

That is a rhetorical, counterfactual statement, idiot.


35 posted on 10/09/2022 5:14:50 AM PDT by odawg
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To: JonPreston

Hey Andrew, you prevaricating little liar, he blamed Biden, the senile puppet you worship, and the deep state for this mess! Not the United States,You stinking little punk!


36 posted on 10/09/2022 5:19:44 AM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: JonPreston

“Unfortunately the large majority of our political leadership has actively sided with the corrupt Zelenskyy to the tune of $70bn (+/-) US tax dollars. “

Because underneath it they all stand to personally profit from this. Period, follow the money. If not we would not be involved over there and we would not be having this conflict, debate, and infighting.

We are giving them moral credit they absolutely do not deserve at all.


37 posted on 10/09/2022 5:20:09 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: sam_whiskey

Biden absolutely encouraged the invasion, just not the way many think.

He announced Russia was going to invade, pulled out US personnel, said there was no way we would fight Russia, and basically said a “limited incursion” would be ok.

And this followed the retreat from Afghanistan.

Biden only finally aided Ukraine after intense pressure from both parties.


38 posted on 10/09/2022 5:20:36 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: JonPreston

What interview?

Until you show us the interview we have no idea what President Trump said.

Where is the transcript or at least a link to the interview?


39 posted on 10/09/2022 5:23:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dforest

The way that they framed it was “Trump blamed the US”. No he did not. He blamed the Biden Administration.


40 posted on 10/09/2022 5:24:47 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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