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PayPal Updates User Policy to Include Possible $2,500 Fine For Speech It Doesn’t Like
Legal Insurrection ^ | 10-6-2022 | Stacey Matthews

Posted on 10/06/2022 7:30:43 AM PDT by servo1969

It's no big secret that Big Tech's tentacles have a vast reach, with platforms like Facebook and Twitter admitting in so many words after the fact to deliberately suppressing news content prior to the 2020 presidential election that portrayed then-Democratic nominee for president Joe Biden and his international wheelin' and dealin' son Hunter in a less than flattering light being one of the more notable examples.

But as has already been made clear by online payment systems like PayPal and Venmo, even more silencing of alternative points of view is needed in the form of financial strangulation if necessary, which can occur via shutting down accounts entirely or, in PayPal's case, will soon also potentially include $2,500 fines for WrongThink, according to a recently updated acceptable use policy set to take effect in November.

As reported by Reclaim the Net:

PayPal's clause about taking users' funds for a violation of its rules has long been established. But, as published on September 26th and to be effective on November 3rd, 2022, PayPal will add restrictions to its acceptable use policy that go beyond illegal activities and fraud and into the realm of policing speech.

The updated policy prohibits users from using PayPal for activities that:

"Involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal's sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable ... (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) ... (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation ... or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication."

Big Tech platforms are increasingly finding ways to punish people's speech under the guise of banning 🛡 "misinformation," and making themselves as the arbiters of truth in deciding what is and isn't true.

Yep, and in PayPal's case, they specifically state that they can fine users $2,500 for alleged "misinformation" and supposed hate speech.

"Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account(s)," the new policy reads.

As Fire.org also noted, PayPal has been under fire in the U.K. in recent weeks for what critics called viewpoint-based discrimination against users:

Two weeks ago, PayPal shuttered the account of the Free Speech Union, a London-based organization founded by social commentator Toby Young to advocate for free expression. PayPal also closed Young's personal account and that of his news and opinion website, The Daily Sceptic.

On Tuesday, PayPal reinstated the accounts, but only after sustained public criticism of the company's apparently viewpoint-discriminatory actions.

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In typically murky fashion, PayPal initially gave Young no reason for the bans other than to say that the accounts violated the company's vague acceptable use policy. However, a PayPal spokesperson told the press, "Achieving the balance between protecting the ideals of tolerance, diversity and respect for people of all backgrounds and upholding the values of free expression and open dialogue can be difficult, but we do our best to achieve it." Other reports indicate PayPal's decision to close the accounts had to do with alleged COVID-19 misinformation.

Gosh, this all sounds nauseatingly familiar, doesn't it?

What's especially horrid about how PayPal operates beyond being able to yank $2,500 from your account because you posted something they disagree with is that there typically is no advance warning and no appeals process. It just happens and you have very little recourse, as GetPayment explained:

PayPal creates their own Acceptable Use Policy, which effectively allows them to play by their own rules. Their payment processing services are unregulated compared to full-service merchant services providers. That means merchants have no legal recourse to resolve these issues or get their funds reimbursed.

To make matters worse, there is no defined appeals process. They can ban you without warning, potentially without allowing you to cash out your account balance for six months. Plus, they can fine you multiple times to deplete your balance--and there's not much you can do to stop them.

As to how to fight back against such Orwellian tactics? Getting even louder is, of course, a big reason why Big Tech operations like PayPal put such policies in place, to begin with.

While there are some viable alternatives to PayPal, their partnerships with financial institutions can mean the service providers and users possibly being subjected to woke ESG standards and summarily canceled as a result, which Republican governors like Florida's Ron DeSantis are trying to stop.

Still, they are worth exploring for anyone concerned with PayPal's increasing overreach and control over what its users say on their websites.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bigtech; classactionlawsuit; fine; freespeech; internet; paypal; policy; speech; suepaypal; technofascism; technotyranny
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To: StAnDeliver

Also, Venmo, LLC (subsidiary of PayPal). I Didn’t know that.


21 posted on 10/06/2022 8:20:50 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: ConservativeMind

If they threaten those who use their service to pay with, then hopefully someone will sue their asses off.


22 posted on 10/06/2022 8:39:41 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: servo1969

It isn’t a fine. It’s seizure of the money in the account for any reason that Paypal decides is justified. Next it will be banks that will seize money from your accounts if you are a dissenter. The next natural progression will be the irs, or SSA.

Remember Cyprus and bank accounts? Do not doubt that the statists regard that as a pivotal moment that they are salivating to repeat.

The current trend is toward eliminating cash. So all money would be in an electronic account somewhere, making politicians salivate as they contemplate what they can do with that money.


23 posted on 10/06/2022 9:09:18 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is the enemy. They are the most subversive institution on the planet. )
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To: Safrguns

That is what I was trying to understand.


24 posted on 10/06/2022 9:10:24 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: P-Marlowe

Even the electric company gets lost trying to find my rural Hawaii home. I’m not too worried.
Big ocean. Small island. Fewer people.


25 posted on 10/06/2022 9:15:23 AM PDT by rellic
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To: FLT-bird

I will be closing mine ASAP...
Only use it for FreeRepublic...


26 posted on 10/06/2022 9:30:26 AM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: StAnDeliver

You skipped Amazon Pay


27 posted on 10/06/2022 9:40:53 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: servo1969

Years ago PayPal wanted to link accounts to the users checking/savings account. I thought that was an idea that I wanted no part of, so I stopped using them immediately.


28 posted on 10/06/2022 11:54:27 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: StAnDeliver

not really, i dont use paypal on ebay at all


29 posted on 10/06/2022 12:25:33 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
They can seize your money for alleging you committed fraud. That's what happened to me.

I received funds into my PayPal account from the Small Business Administration. Because the funds were unusual, PayPal contacted me to find out if it was legit. I told them, yes, it was, that it was a loan for disaster relief. That's all it took. "The Small Business Administration does not provide loans for disaster relief", read the email. Fifteen minutes later, my funds are gone and the account closed.

An hour later, my congressman assigned me an aide who got the local head of the SBA involved and everything was straightened out. The end.

All because a non-American at Paypal decided I had committed fraud. No proof, just a simple decision.
30 posted on 10/06/2022 4:16:30 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: servo1969; Jim Robinson
"The updated policy prohibits users from using PayPal for activities that:"
“Involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable … (e) depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) … (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation … or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication.”

In PayPal’s sole discretion of what constitutes violation of its purposely ambiguous terms, then even at its best behavior, FR can be judged to be "unfit for publication."

31 posted on 10/06/2022 7:33:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: servo1969

Related...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-paypal-policy-lets-company-pull-2500-from-users-accounts-if-they-promote-misinformation


32 posted on 10/08/2022 8:55:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: bobbo666
Surely no one parks $$ in a PayPal account?

I never leave money parked there, but they have a transfer link to my bank account. Guess I better sever that, if I don't cancel outright.

33 posted on 10/08/2022 9:08:43 AM PDT by Tellurian (Your phone is your cattle tag.)
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To: Tellurian

I deleted my debit card from PayPal this morning... it wouldn’t let me close the account saying there was a ‘pending transaction’...there isn’t. When I reviewed how I was using PayPal I noticed there was nothing they actually did for me that I couldn’t do with my debit card alone. They were just a convenience that became inconvenient.


34 posted on 10/08/2022 10:15:46 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960
I just sent a certified check to pay off my account.

My wife and I have reorganized our finances at a new credit union with more services than our previous one. We won’t miss anything by quitting PayPal.

35 posted on 10/08/2022 11:34:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: StAnDeliver

Paypal competitors, checks, cash, credit cards, crypto, etc...


36 posted on 10/08/2022 12:04:18 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: servo1969

This will backfire big time. Although it will take some time before it all shakes out. Give it a few years.

Lawyers will be licking their chops because PayPal is acting as if opinions are facts and facts are opinions.


37 posted on 10/08/2022 12:06:51 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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