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LA and NYC REFUSE to hand over crime stats to FBI for national figures as murder rises by 4.3% and rape by 3.9% across the country
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Posted on 10/05/2022 3:32:10 PM PDT by algore

The FBI said murder rates in the US rose by 4.3 percent and rapes by 3.9 percent last year, but the numbers don't include the crime-ridden cities of New York or Los Angeles.

In its annual analysis of crime in America, the FBI said their were about 22,900 murders in 2021, up from the 22,000 in 2020, which saw homicides soar by nearly 30 percent.

The FBI also saw 107,500 rape reports, nearly a 4 percent increase, but overall crime was reportedly down 1 percent since robberies fell by 8.2 percent and aggravated assaults remained at about the same level as the previous year.

Crime for New York City and Los Angeles, however, were absent in the FBI's data as police in the city failed to submit their records to the bureau's new collection systems, leaving the agency to fill in the blanks with estimates.

It comes as both cities contend with more than 300 murders so far this year, with overall violent crime running rampant.

In 2020, the FBI announced a complete overhaul of its crime data collection system in order to improve the statistics about crime in the US.

However, about 9,700 police agencies had initially failed to submit their crime reports to the correct system by the March 14 deadline, with New York and Los Angeles failing to submit any data all together.

Analysts from the Brennan Center for Justice said the missing data has left the current image of crime in America muddied.

'With so many agencies failing to report a full year of data for 2021, this year's annual crime data release will have significant blind spots,' the center said in a statement.

'Clearly, there is uncertainty surrounding the data released today,' he said. 'Let's hope this is a one-year blip

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; corruption; crimes; dystopia; fbi
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I did not submit an unrequired form to the IRS one year. you would not believe the harassment I endured.

Why could the FBI not follow up on this?

1 posted on 10/05/2022 3:32:10 PM PDT by algore
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I believe the FBI Crime Statistics Reporting System is completely voluntary. They are not forced to submit statistics.

This leads me to believe Newsom is running for President in 2024, and doesn’t want those statistics available because they would be terrible.

Just my guess.


2 posted on 10/05/2022 3:35:28 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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So you are saying it was likely not incompetence, just malice toward voters who might want to be informed?


3 posted on 10/05/2022 3:39:51 PM PDT by algore
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Why not? The FBI can spin the numbers to prove all these crimes are by white supremacist MAGA terrorists.


4 posted on 10/05/2022 3:40:32 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: algore

And 100,000+ drug ODs, but AR-15s.......oh, and ULTRA MEGA MAGA battalions.


5 posted on 10/05/2022 3:41:23 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? ๐Ÿ˜•)
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To: algore

I can understand a reluctance to interface with the FIB.


6 posted on 10/05/2022 3:42:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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"...In 2020, the FBI announced a complete overhaul of its crime data collection system in order to improve the statistics about crime in the US..."

This makes me think that a wholesale redefinition of crime, particularly violent crime is underway.

Done in order to minimize the tsunami of violence.

I am familiar with the website, having visited there a few times to slice and dice their data. I doubt the Leftists at the FIB are happy with what the unadulterated data shows when analyzed.

Last time I looked, over a ten year period, 40% of the violent crime, murders, armed robbery, rape, was caused by less than 3% of the population, by my calculation, probably closer to 1.5-2%.

Black males.

Like Leftists always do, instead of addressing issues and facing the truth, they redefine them to suit their agenda, so I see that as an underlying force.

7 posted on 10/05/2022 3:42:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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My guess is the stats are way beyond the the usual horror.
8 posted on 10/05/2022 3:44:30 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: algore

Incompetence and malevolence are two sides of the same coin.


9 posted on 10/05/2022 3:45:43 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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#1 Only a fool talks to the FBI.
#2 Those cities don’t want to look as bad as they really are.
Leave Democrat cities to rot in their own Feces. Who cares about the filth there. God does, but I don’t.
I worry about the people I can help.


10 posted on 10/05/2022 3:48:31 PM PDT by rellic
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To: algore
Yes. They had the system in place to get data, and since 2016, it has begun to be used against them.

They likely had no idea that was going to happen and were surprised when it did. I think the first one to really do it was Heather MacDonald from the WSJ, and the fact they could not jettison her is proof to me she is not adulterating or misrepresenting the data she got from that FBI Crime Statistics Reporting website. Note the text in red below:

Here is a link to a short 7 minute video by Bill Whittle which really explains a lot (and gets all of its data from the link to Heather MacDonald at the Wall Street Journal, who did the number crunching on the federally supplied numbers to reach her conclusions):

Any time the narrative comes up where it is asserted that there exists an epidemic of black men being shot by police officers, here is the statistic that should lead off the ensuing conversation:


In 2015, according to federal crime statistics, a police officer of ANY race is 18 times more likely to die at the hands of a black man, than a black man is to die at the hands of a police officer.

"The Myths of Black Lives Matter" by Heather MacDonald) (Note: This is behind a paywall, but this link takes you to where the article is, in case you need to verify its validity.)


Here is an excellent video from Bill Whittle that not only is NOT behind a paywall, and it COMPLETELY puts things in the proper perspective:

"Black Lives Matter Kills People" by Bill Whittle
It is a 7 minute video which puts it in context, and explains much.

Here are some relevant screen captures from that EXCELLENT video:


11 posted on 10/05/2022 3:49:42 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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“Mostly peaceful” arson, murder, robbery, assault, etc. need not be included. /s


12 posted on 10/05/2022 3:57:05 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: algore

Sanctuary city was just the opening chapter.


13 posted on 10/05/2022 3:58:24 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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Why? Because they would reveal that POC are responsible for over 70% of of the crimes?


14 posted on 10/05/2022 4:03:40 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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The smartest thing they could do is turn the data over to the FBI. I mean, itโ€™s not like the FBI would disclose anything that could hurt libs . . .


15 posted on 10/05/2022 4:10:20 PM PDT by MCSETots
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Can’t have Soros and Biden seen for who they are.


16 posted on 10/05/2022 4:33:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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In 2020, the FBI announced a complete overhaul of its crime data collection system in order to improve the statistics about crime in the US.

Democrat mayors lie to the FBI about their crime stats and the FBI lets them get away with it. We need ONE standard. Cities that say theft under $1,000 is a misdemeanor are a big part of the problem. If we had an honest press they could ask the FBI to explain the mess.

17 posted on 10/05/2022 4:44:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump EARNED his money. Same money democrats have to steal from us. It's why they hate him.)
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Then cut off all federal funding until they do.


18 posted on 10/05/2022 4:54:19 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: algore

And the FBI will put it in the Hillary, hunter, Obama file


19 posted on 10/05/2022 7:34:25 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: rellic

One problem is that TOURISTS fall for the myth that these dumps are safe, and unfortunately some die without ever realizing they were victims of a lie.


20 posted on 10/06/2022 2:31:58 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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