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To: tlozo

We invaded Afghanistan, are we bad?

Russia had security reasons for what they did, as we would have if in their shoes.

Ukraine also was abusing ethic Russians for years, and we also conveniently ignored those reports and accounts reported on by observers on the ground. You should read some of the swiss reports, they tell a slightly different story.

Russia is about a fascist as we are. If there is one thing our media got right, it’s that they are a nation ruled by oligarchs. But even there we ignore that we are the same. There is a small elite in Western society that runs the place and they meet in places like Davos or wherever Bilderberg meets. In fact, our oligarchs control more of the world’s population, more landmass, there are more of them...

This war isn’t complicated to understand. We chose to ignore Russian interests and security concerns. Our oligarchs want Ukraine tied to the EU and NATO since this provides the legal framework, open markets, and physical security they want for their investments. However, this put Russia in an impossible situation.

This right here was the cause for this war:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

The rest is just post rationalizing, make belief arguments...


70 posted on 10/04/2022 2:48:03 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
We invaded Afghanistan, are we bad?

To annex? Like Russians, in Ukraine and Georgia?

Russia is about a fascist as we are.

Please, that's bs. 'Little Russians', 'Ruskie Mir'.

Ukraine has a right to choose its own path and make its own alliances, but Russians will not tolerate that because of Russian fascism.

71 posted on 10/04/2022 3:04:14 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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