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To: Red6

Good post. It was clear to see from day one, Biden would somehow betray ( intentionally or not) and fail Ukraine, ( also the EU) from his ill thought out sanctions, weaponizing the dollar, to throwing billions of US taxpayers money into the Ukie corrupted black hole.

Why can not anyone see EVERYTHING senile Joe supports, mandates or instates either fails or cripples the US?

I have no respect for the corrupted little beggar Zelensky, he made a deal with the Devil, and the Devil will devour him.

People seem to be finally waking up, it seems clearer everyday Zelensky will be ousted, either politically, or militarily ( 9 mm to the head). The Ukie population deserved much, much better….but then again, they voted the corrupted comedian into office. They are now coming to the realization fighting Vlad down to their last Ukrainian was not a joking matter, enlisting to become a lowly pawn in Biden’s war cost them their future.

Ukraine 1991-2023 RIP


19 posted on 10/01/2022 6:37:05 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I support Ukraine because I believe in decentralization, self determinism. I support a people and culture to have their own rules, space etc.

However, I am also a realist and do not deny that we would have serious issues if another world power were to set up shop on our border. When you look at Ukraine and Russia and a map of where big maneuver corridors are, the rail lines and gauge, major roads, the number of big airfields in Ukraine, the ease with which things can be hidden (forests), sea ports, land connection West with Poland and Romania (lines of communication)... For Russia this is an impossible situation to accept.

We forced this issue in October 2021. Russia could lay in their belly and stick their ass up or fight (essentially the situation we created). But we clearly decided that in complete disregard to their issues we would bring Ukraine into NATO.

All of that comes with the backdrop of Republic of Georgia and what we did regards Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia in 2004. Our violating of the Minsk agreement, withdraw from the ballistic missile treaty, treading into Syria. We give them very good reasons not to trust us.

However, this war was flat out stupid and it doesn’t even help the people of Ukraine.

Arming Ukraine as we did 2014-2021 can be argued to make it costly if Russia becomes an aggressor, but when we said “yes” to Ukraine being a NATO member we put the Russians in a situation where they are threatened, and that is something folks simply do not see.

This is a war where the entire world can point their finger to one single man: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/ (((Biden)))

This was Biden’s call to make. This is his war, not even Mr Z, who will do as told. The Euro’s have their EU club, but NATO is ours and it’s NATO where the problem is. Russia does not want our tanks, fighters, bombers, on their border, not really a hard concept to understand.


25 posted on 10/01/2022 7:18:49 PM PDT by Red6
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