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Biden Administration Throws Cold Water on Ukraine Joining NATO
Newsweek ^ | September 30, 2022 | Nick Reynolds

Posted on 10/01/2022 5:54:12 AM PDT by McGruff

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan says Ukrainian efforts to join NATO should be taken up "at a different time," throwing cold water on the country's desire to join the international alliance and potentially easing Russian tensions as President Vladimir Putin has begun accelerating rhetoric of potential nuclear war.

Ukraine formally applied to join NATO as a military partner on Friday, coinciding with Putin's announcement that Russia would be formally annexing four occupied regions within Ukraine's borders. If accepted, NATO-aligned forces would formally be drawn into the war, pitting forces in the West against the Russian military and, potentially, escalating the conflict.

NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said earlier Friday that while it supports Ukraine's right to pursue an alliance with NATO, all 30 allies need to reach a consensus on membership.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: botchedinvasion; enjoythesanctions; newsweak; nickreynolds; russialosing; russiaretreating; weaknews
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To: BlackbirdSST

No kidding

CNN said it so it’s true

When this is over and the four oblasts are Russian these folks will still claim victory

You know they are will

Wonder how long they will continue to tout daily beast and the guardian here after the war is over


81 posted on 10/01/2022 8:14:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: cranked

The real enemy is woke globalism the same folks supporting Z

Same folks who stole the election

Putin taking Donbas means diddly compared to that threat


82 posted on 10/01/2022 8:16:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: All

What Happened?

Did Zelensky not kick back Joe & Hunter’s 10% out of the recent $12 Billion American Taxpayers were forced to give him?


83 posted on 10/01/2022 8:17:37 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: DannyTN
NATO won’t wait for an “agreement” between Ukraine and Russia. That would give Putin veto power and such an agreement is unlikely to occur for decades or at least until Putin is out of power. Ukraine won’t even talk to Russia again until Putin is out of power.

You will never get every NATO to agree to Ukrainian membership as long as war can restart at any moment.

But yes, that can't happen until after Putin is gone.

84 posted on 10/01/2022 8:31:18 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: McGruff

In other words, the Biden regime knows the Russian military is about to wipeout what is left of Ukraine’s military capabilities and bring it to knees. He’s finally faced the reality that the proxy war is about over.


85 posted on 10/01/2022 8:39:04 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Fairhairedboy

“Let me see a picture of your “no basement” or you’re nothing but a fraud and a liar.”

Too funny! How can I take a picture of something that doesn’t exist?


86 posted on 10/01/2022 8:40:45 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Fairhairedboy

“Let me see a picture of your “no basement” or you’re nothing but a fraud and a liar.”

LOL! I grew up in Southern California. We didn’t have basements there.


87 posted on 10/01/2022 8:42:23 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: cranked

“I don’t personally like to post images that way cause I feel as though the posting of such images taxes the server(s) resources. So I always link the image. *shrugs*”

Another thing about images is when people are posting an image that they know everyone has seen already, dozens or 100s of times, they could reduce them to a thumbnail or similar (or appropriate) size where we get the point “”Aliens did it””, “”Hillary memes”” but it is less intrusive (and annoying).

The “”That’s Racist”” meme, for example, is usually pretty small, but it could be even smaller and we would all still get it since we are so familiar with it.


88 posted on 10/01/2022 8:54:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Ukraine/money-laundering is the new Swiss bank account?

Like trillions in spending(debt) designed to pacify the masses

(minus 10% for the "big guy"s)

...because who wants the chaos(riots and such)of the REAL economy?

...when millionaire/billionaire scam artists are enjoying the fruits of their fraud/enjoying the good life!

....why rock the boat?

Things are good...for God-less globohomo.

For the rest of you serfs...here's your free gov. $2000(which was quickly wiped out with inflation, along with your regular paycheck/soon-to-be life-savings).

Plan the work, work the plan.

Raise a toast to your conquerors!

89 posted on 10/01/2022 9:03:34 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: delta7
They sign the Nato application in the middle of the street on a rickity desk of all places, yet dwarfed with Gov. buildings behind them they could have easily used. Doesn't look like they take anything seriously except their next photo shoot.

Zelensky then holds it up like a grade school kid showing his teacher he did his homework....so funny!


90 posted on 10/01/2022 9:32:44 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: DannyTN

Was never on the table nor will it ever be.


91 posted on 10/01/2022 9:37:27 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Fairhairedboy

How about sizing your photos down to 350 at least - 500 - 6-700 when detail viewing is needed.

Otherwise you jut look angry.


92 posted on 10/01/2022 9:41:18 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww
"Was never on the table nor will it ever be."

Putin says it was. That's one of his many so called justifications for invading, killing destroying and annexing parts of Ukraine.

So was Putin just lying to justify his land grab?

93 posted on 10/01/2022 9:43:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Putin has been clear about Ukraine not being a part of Nato for decades. Everybody knows this. Furthermore he's long stated he wanted the regions’ problems to be resolved through the Minsk accords...which Ukraine agreed to but did not follow thru on their part.
94 posted on 10/01/2022 9:54:20 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

You avoided the question.

Putin says he invaded Ukraine to stop NATO encroachment.

You say Ukraine joining NATO was never on the table.

Well which is it? Is Putin lying to justify his land grab?


95 posted on 10/01/2022 10:05:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: McGruff

Harder to launder money through Ukraine if it becomes part of NATO.


96 posted on 10/01/2022 10:19:46 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: DannyTN

Nato will never allow Ukraine to join. Is that clear enough?


97 posted on 10/01/2022 10:29:56 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

You’re still avoiding the question.

If Ukraine joining NATO was never on the table, then Putin was lying. That’s what you’re saying.


98 posted on 10/01/2022 10:50:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: caww
I know he was lying. Just like he was lying about genocide. Or his reasons for breaking the Minsk agreements or his reasons for not honoring the Budapest Memorandum.

But you...you said something that directly contradicted Putin. And I just want to hear you say it. You're choices are simple.

Either Ukraine joining NATO was on the table (which neither of us believe) or Putin was lying.


99 posted on 10/01/2022 10:56:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: bert

Kind of like before we got into WWII, when we were still technically “neutral” but aiding Britain to the teeth.


100 posted on 10/01/2022 10:57:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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