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Biden Administration Throws Cold Water on Ukraine Joining NATO
Newsweek ^ | September 30, 2022 | Nick Reynolds

Posted on 10/01/2022 5:54:12 AM PDT by McGruff

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan says Ukrainian efforts to join NATO should be taken up "at a different time," throwing cold water on the country's desire to join the international alliance and potentially easing Russian tensions as President Vladimir Putin has begun accelerating rhetoric of potential nuclear war.

Ukraine formally applied to join NATO as a military partner on Friday, coinciding with Putin's announcement that Russia would be formally annexing four occupied regions within Ukraine's borders. If accepted, NATO-aligned forces would formally be drawn into the war, pitting forces in the West against the Russian military and, potentially, escalating the conflict.

NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said earlier Friday that while it supports Ukraine's right to pursue an alliance with NATO, all 30 allies need to reach a consensus on membership.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: botchedinvasion; enjoythesanctions; newsweak; nickreynolds; russialosing; russiaretreating; weaknews
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To: DannyTN

Putin has always stated a further eastward expansion of NATO into Ukraine, or other nations for that matter, would pose a security threat to Russia. So the answer you’re looking for is NO...


101 posted on 10/01/2022 11:03:46 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: DannyTN

While you’re deciding whether to man up or not, I’ll throw this in.

Ukraine joining NATO wasn’t on the table. But is definitely on the table once this war is finished. Putin has made sure of that. Just like he made sure that Sweden and Finland join.


102 posted on 10/01/2022 11:04:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: caww

But you said it was never on the table. So Putin can’t use it as a reason to invade Ukraine. So he was lying. That’s a YES. You just won’t admit it.


103 posted on 10/01/2022 11:06:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: caww

Hollywood amateurs, what to expect from a comedian? ….but then people here voted for a brain dead nursing home resident.

What happened to well qualified leaders? Nothing but embarrassments, especially in the western governments.


104 posted on 10/01/2022 11:10:24 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

More importantly, we aren’t defending every inch of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are.
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With borrowed arms, equipment, and money. The Ukies have become a welfare state. They are drained, depleted. Bodes not well for them, “ the last Ukie left standing will be the Zelensky Youth and Babushka.


105 posted on 10/01/2022 11:16:37 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
Well they're all playing dangerous games on the world stag with no thought whatsoever of the other nations going down hill as a result of this preventable conflict between Biden/Obama/Nuland and Putin.

They've all put Ukrainian families on the line and the Ukrainians are just too foolish minded to understand THEY really don't matter.....cannon fodder for Biden and Obama as w see playing out every day.

As for qualified leaders here....as long as Identity politics and social issues on the front burner rather than competence and the country's security we aren't going to see many qualified people. All the others are too busy ripping off their states and country to let good people in.

106 posted on 10/01/2022 11:25:15 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
You stated......" we aren't defending every inch of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are".

These are not Ukrainian troops Biden has deployed to Ukraines war...


107 posted on 10/01/2022 11:36:41 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

That February photo is of troops going to NATO, not Ukraine.

The United States is deploying troops to NATO countries in Eastern Europe, but not to Ukraine, which is not a member of NATO.Credit...Kenny Holston for The New York Times
By Michael Crowley Published Feb. 5, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/05/us/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-war.html


108 posted on 10/01/2022 11:45:19 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: jimwatx

Ukraine was rejected three years ago I believe. No?


109 posted on 10/01/2022 12:42:02 PM PDT by rrrod (6a)
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To: kiryandil

There’s no way in Hell I’d ever take a bullet for a guy who plays the piano with his nuts.


110 posted on 10/01/2022 12:56:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: McGruff

The Deep Rot fears this to end:

https://mises.org/library/living-reality-military-economic-fascism


111 posted on 10/01/2022 1:31:47 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: Pollard

[Wilson lives in DC with his husband]

Wonderful. I feel safer already.

Tagline.


112 posted on 10/01/2022 1:55:34 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: caww

Part of me has wondered throughout this if the Ukrainian government and people just don’t understand what kind of evil they’ve gotten themselves caught up in. They seem so quaint and naive at times - like these photos…and then true evil like Pelosi and Graham shows up for a gosh-darn visit saying all kinds of loving gushing things into their ears. China, Russia, Iran, crazy Kim even, seem quite hostile and predatory at times for sure…but the West…the West, being right here in it, truly seems like the ultimate in evil…hating both man and God with a never ending seething hatred.


113 posted on 10/01/2022 2:08:36 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: DannyTN

“However there is a likelihood that when Ukraine pushes Russia out of all of it’s territories including Crimea, that NATO will immediately accept Ukraine.”

The entire world will be incinerated before that.

SHHH!

Stupid people don’t know it yet.


114 posted on 10/01/2022 4:25:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: caww

Well, The West declined the Ukies admission to NATO, again.

Vlad wins, again.


115 posted on 10/01/2022 4:30:51 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

116 posted on 10/01/2022 4:58:53 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: cranked
Taking territory is one thing, holding it is another. Putin's army is vanishing and fighting age males are fleeing Russian in droves. What is left of the Russian army is getting it's ass kicked. The Russian navy has gone back to it's ports and it's air force is all but grounded.
117 posted on 10/04/2022 10:44:00 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

Taking territory is one thing, holding it is another. neo-Yatzi ZelenskyyIdiot’s army is vanishing and fighting age males are fleeing Russians in droves. What is left of the Ukrainian army is getting it’s ass kicked. The Ukrainian navy as with it’s air force has been destroyed.


118 posted on 10/04/2022 10:49:18 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

What are you, a Putin bot?

I don’t give a rip for these two thug regimes but the simple fact of the matter is Russia is getting it’s ass kicked and every Russian male who can is high tailing it out of Mother Russia.

The Russian navy lost it’s premier ship the Moskova and it’s air force gets shot out of the sky.

You’re an idiot.


119 posted on 10/04/2022 11:01:20 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

What are you, a neo-Yatzi ZelenskyyIdiot bot?

I don’t give a rip for these two thug regimes but the simple fact of the matter is Ukraine is getting it’s ass kicked and every Ukrainian male, and FEMALE given they are now being drafted into the Ukrainian military, who can is high tailing it out of the Ukrainian Fatherland.

The Ukrainian navy is destroyed and it’s air force is near non-existent and virtually destroyed.

You’re an idiot.


120 posted on 10/04/2022 11:05:40 AM PDT by cranked
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