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UK _ Chainsaw sales soar as Brits buy 35,000 woodburners in three months to keep themselves warm during the energy crisis
FOR THE DAILY MAIL ^ | 30 September 2022 | COLIN FERNANDEZ ENVIRONMENT EDITOR

Posted on 10/01/2022 2:06:37 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: dennisw
Here's me.

Here's the UK

I do believe I have more trees than all of the UK

41 posted on 10/01/2022 5:41:26 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: Bernard

The conditions you describe were what led to the notorious ‘smogs’ in London and other large cities - generated by the burning of coal, not wood, in open fires. They ended rapidly with the Clean Air Acts of the 1950s, which banned the use of untreated coal as a domestic fuel in urban areas. However, wood-burning stoves have become fashionable in recent years, not for essential heating but as a chic accessory. There are now so many of them that they’re once more affecting air quality, particularly in London.


42 posted on 10/01/2022 5:43:37 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: dennisw

Coming to California soon. CARB is going to have to hire and arm 50,000 new officers and tree huggers to prevent it.


43 posted on 10/01/2022 5:50:42 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Bernard
When we lived in the Seattle area, they used to have “inversion days” or something like that, when the use of fireplaces was prohibited.

They still do and the zone covers all of Puget Sound. But they also have a caveat to the burn bans if that's your only source of heat.

I have a gas furnace but choose to heat with wood as much as possible. So when my furnace broke down a few years ago necessitating the replacement of an electronic controller board I kept the old part and swap it into the furnace to temporarily disable it.

So far I haven't had any menacing knocks at the door or goon shaped thugs demanding I explain myself ;'}

44 posted on 10/01/2022 6:00:54 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: dennisw

Back in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, we burned wood. Since I was working as a logger, getting wood was no problem. But I didn’t always stock up in the summer. If I ran short in the winter, I could always scrounge dried snags, or old-growth bark. Either pick up the chunks that popped off the logs as they were loaded onto trucks, or go out and find a large fir stump and chip the bark off. It burned like coal - hot and slow. No matter what one burned, there remained disposing of all the ash, and rattling a chain gently around in the chimney flue to debride the creosote - AH! THOSE were the days. Except I much prefer our nat-gas fireplace now.


45 posted on 10/01/2022 6:02:54 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: dennisw

Every house should have a well kept chain saw. At least, that is what my father-in-law said to me, when he gave me it for a wedding present.


46 posted on 10/01/2022 6:04:08 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: Antioch
If true I’m very surprised the UKSchwab govt doesn’t regulate woodstoves as tightly as guns.

It regulates them pretty highly, although not as tightly as firearms. There have been a couple of strict limits placed on particulate emissions. The first one was rather easily met; the second is tougher, and some manufacturers have had to use catalytic inserts to meet them.

Personally, I detest catalytic inserts, because they clog, they are non-standard, and they only work well for the part of the burn that is both hot and producing a lot of VOCs.

I was fortunate enough to upgrade my stove in 2019, when the first set of regulations was in effect, but not the second. The burn (which is much cleaner than any stove I've had in the past, but still leaves creosote over the course of a winter) was improved by the creation of secondary air paths over the top of the flame.

47 posted on 10/01/2022 6:04:16 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Iceclimber58

Yeah, 10s of 1000s of people using a chain saw for the first time? That’s not good.

Just went out and marked dead trees a couple of weeks ago and will start cutting here this week. Mostly white oaks here, pin oak, post oak. Some black jack and some true red oak. Bit of hickory too but that’s mostly for the smoker. Got on big hickory to cut down this year so some will be for the stove.

I’ve got thick woods, regrowth from several decades ago, so most of what I cut is 4-8”. They get cut to 6-8 foot in the woods and loaded onto a trailer. I cut them to stove length off the back of the trailer up here and they drop into a cart. Then some go straight into the house and the rest on pallet racks.

Got a neighbor who always said if you don’t know how to burn green wood, you got no business using a wood stove. His place was never all that warm and he usually has to clean out his stove pipe once in the middle of Winter. He’s got an old stove in his kitchen that doesn’t shut down tight enough to make it through the night with dry wood. It’s not a cook stove. It’s one of those old ones from the 50s or 60s that is wrapped in a sheet metal case.

He got a little air tight a couple of years for his living room so he now appreciates dry wood for that and figured out how to make it last through morning.

My stove’s hardly new but I can put the fire out if I shut down the vents. It’s a Fisher Papa Bear.


48 posted on 10/01/2022 6:17:50 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: mad_as_he$$

In the Uk a huge number of homes, especially in the cities, have coal fire places. It wasn’t so long ago that people had coal delivered to their homes and was the primary means of heat during the winter.


49 posted on 10/01/2022 6:24:49 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

I wouldn’t like to guess a figure, but the number still retaining open fireplaces is now quite small. They haven’t been fitted in new houses for years, and most of the existing ones have either been filled in or the flues converted to various kinds of stove. However, quite a lot of those conversions could fairly easily be reversed.


50 posted on 10/01/2022 6:36:46 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Pollard

“Got a neighbor who always said if you don’t know how to burn green wood, you got no business using a wood stove.”

I burned only green wood one winter out in the stix. The land across the street had all the trees taken out and pushed (bulldozed) into a brush pile. They were making it into pasture. I took only branches that were 1-3” diameter. Then cut them at home with a regular old circular saw. So maybe being thin diameter, they burned hotter and better. I checked the stove pipe once a month and only saw the bare minimal of black creosote that starts stove pipe fires.

Free fire wood! With no labor on my part except for taking it and cutting it up to cast iron stove size.


51 posted on 10/01/2022 6:39:16 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: srmanuel

Yup—I would expect to see a lot more home fires as wood stove newbies start learning lessons the hard way.

I know one house that burned to a cinder because the wood stove newbie crammed it full of wood, opened up the flu all the way—lit it before leaving for work in the morning—and returned to an empty lot!


52 posted on 10/01/2022 6:41:24 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Qiviut

When I see a single emergency utility company truck, or an EV ambulance on the road, I will know that there is a possibility that EV will work.


53 posted on 10/01/2022 6:42:20 AM PDT by healy61
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To: healy61

I saw a graphic ... dispatch operator saying “I’m sorry, sir - we are unable to send the fire department to your house fire ... our trucks are charging up”.


54 posted on 10/01/2022 6:51:26 AM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark ✝️ .... (author unknown))
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

NEW JOB OPENINGS:

CHIMNEY SWEEPS !!!!!


55 posted on 10/01/2022 7:11:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ansel12

Bought chainsaw to clear 5 acres in 1993.

Had NEVER used one prior.

Used up 7 chains in under 3 years.

Am on 13th GALLON of chain oil.

Was 53/54/55/56 THEN.

FEMALE


56 posted on 10/01/2022 7:13:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Pollard

I heated a 2553 sq ft house in N Calif-—with cold temps/snow every winter with ONLY a LOPI wood stove.

IF I ever have another house, I want another LOPI wood stove.

This house doesn’t have the room-—only 51% size of larger house.


57 posted on 10/01/2022 7:18:44 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dennisw

Reminds me of a scene from BECKET in which King Henry has been drenched in a rain storm, goes to a hovel and demands fire and warmth.

Becket: You will find no fire here sire. Each hovel is allowed two measures of wood a year. One stick more and they are hanged.

Henry: MY edict?

Becket: Your edict sire.
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And then there is this when the people start looting due to cold...

“I told myself it was beneath my dignity to arrest a man for pilfering firewood. But nothing ordered by the Party is beneath the dignity of any man. And the Party was right: one man desperate for a bit of fuel is pathetic; five million people desperate for fuel will destroy a city. “ —from Dr Zhivago


58 posted on 10/01/2022 7:24:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( FR is on GAB! https://gab.com/groups/67851)
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To: dennisw

They need to go back to the old British standby COAL!


59 posted on 10/01/2022 7:30:21 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( FR is on GAB! https://gab.com/groups/67851)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

60 posted on 10/01/2022 7:36:00 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,124,662 active users on Truth Social)
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