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Large Russian Force Faces ‘Encirclement’ in Eastern Ukraine
The Moscow Times ^ | Sept 30, 2022 | By James Beardsworth

Posted on 09/30/2022 5:27:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA

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Slava Ukraine !
1 posted on 09/30/2022 5:27:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

With the impending fall of Lyman, the stage is set for the Ukraine to conquer all of Luhansk.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 5:30:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: 11th_VA

wow moscow times


3 posted on 09/30/2022 5:31:06 PM PDT by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: 11th_VA

Well, covering the exits from that cauldron with artillery is nice, and will cause significant casualties, but it won’t prevent the entrapped Russian soldiers from escaping. They may lose a lot of vehicles, though.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 5:34:06 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: 11th_VA

Our friends of Putin will tell you this is all propaganda.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 5:34:11 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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Large Russian Force Faces ‘Encirclement’ in Eastern Ukraine


6 posted on 09/30/2022 5:34:59 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: All

BTW - YouTube site called 1420, interviews Russians (in Russia) about their views on the ‘Special Operation’ - very insightful


7 posted on 09/30/2022 5:41:41 PM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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—”but it won’t prevent the entrapped Russian soldiers from escaping.”

Sun Tzu said...

When you surround an army, leave an outlet free.

This does not mean that the enemy is to be allowed to escape. The object, as Tu Mu puts it, is “to make him believe that there is a road to safety, and thus prevent his fighting with the courage of despair.” Tu Mu adds pleasantly: “After that, you may crush him.”

https://suntzusaid.com/book/7/36/


8 posted on 09/30/2022 5:43:00 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: 11th_VA

Ha!

the first real “caludron””encirclement” may be at hnad!


9 posted on 09/30/2022 5:44:05 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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Bargaining chips for a large prisoner exchange


10 posted on 09/30/2022 5:50:18 PM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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To: devane617

Moscow Times... LOL

https://who.is/whois/themoscowtimes.com


11 posted on 09/30/2022 5:59:04 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: devane617

The Russian war map agees with this assessment.
Russian sources in general seem even more gloomy than this article. The Russians seem to have evacuated Drobysheve for Lyman for instance. The perimeter of the Lyman pocket continues to shrink.

You can check one source against another and get a more accurate take on the situation. Attacking the source is a lazy form of denial.


12 posted on 09/30/2022 6:04:30 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Truly— something variously called “Themo.org” etc.etc.

Not Moscow... EU front group or better the see eye ehhhhhhhsowhat.


13 posted on 09/30/2022 6:04:59 PM PDT by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 11th_VA

Could Russia lose? It used to be unthinkable, but now??


14 posted on 09/30/2022 6:06:51 PM PDT by rod5591
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To: 11th_VA

Could Russia lose? It used to be unthinkable, but now??


15 posted on 09/30/2022 6:12:30 PM PDT by rod5591
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LOL


16 posted on 09/30/2022 6:15:32 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: nicollo

All sources agree on the situation at Lyman.
Including the Russians.

This guy is basing his take mainly on the pro-Russian updated Rybar map.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPA8zLjwZng


17 posted on 09/30/2022 6:19:39 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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*Yawn*

Look over here, not over there.


18 posted on 09/30/2022 6:21:55 PM PDT by cranked
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To: rod5591

Thinkable.

The Russians have lost a lot of both men and equipment, and professional cadre besides.

Then there is the upcoming mud and winter weather, losing supply lines, evident lack of equipment and, surprisingly, ammo, etc.

They can expect a lot of infantry replacements, but that should help only defensively until they can make up their materiel deficiencies. Indeed the Russians may now be facing the same situation the Ukrainians were in from April-July - lots of men but little equipment and firepower.

If the Russians had had these infantry replacements six months ago it may have been a different story.

So the Russians arent about to defeat Ukraine in the next six months. At best they may be able to hold their ground. That will throw the question outside the scope of the battlefield and into the field of politics and economics.


19 posted on 09/30/2022 6:30:05 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: 11th_VA

Slobber Ukraine.


20 posted on 09/30/2022 7:07:08 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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