Humiliated Putin will annex occupied Ukrainian regions in major speech TOMORROW – as his troops face 'imminent defeat' in key town amid rampaging Kyiv counter-attack

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ ^ | 08:43 EDT, 29 September 2022 | Chris Pleasance

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

Vladimir Putin will formally annex occupied regions of Ukraine to Russian in a major speech tomorrow, the Kremlin has confirmed, as he attempts to regain the initiative after his forces suffered a humiliating rout earlier this month.

Putin's speech comes after Russian-backed proxy governments in Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions held sham referendums earlier this week on whether to go ahead with the move.

Armed Russian soldiers taking ballot boxes door-to-door left the results in no doubt, and Ukraine along with its Western allies have vowed not to recognise the results.

But it still marks a turning point in the war because it will allow PUTIN TO SPIN THE LIE to his own people that any attack on those regions is an attack on Russia itself - paving the way for him to escalate, possibly as far as using nukes.

Ukraine has vowed to defy that threat is continuing to attack into those regions today, with a key town in Donetsk now all-but surrounded.

Lyman, which sits close to the Donets river, is being flanked from northwest and southeast, with Kyiv's troops having cut off all escape routes bar one.

Putin's forces are facing 'imminent defeat' in the town which is a key supply hub for troops in the region.

Taking the town would clear the way for Ukraine to attack into neighbouring Luhansk province - which is almost completely under Russian control.

Putin maintains that the ultimate goal of his 'special military operation' is the liberation of both Donetsk and Luhansk, and defeats there would make it impossible to spin the war as a success.

It comes off the back of a devastating Ukrainian counter-attack east out of Kharkiv earlier this month that returned thousands of square miles to Kyiv's control and buckled Russia's frontline.

[caww]

Do you think they’d give Russia a favorable grade - ever! Of course not.

[ought-six]

“Most international law experts disagreed with Kosovo being annexed at the time.”

Link, please.

“The right to self determination is why we threw out the Brits.”

Was there a British law or constitution that forbade our declaration of independence? No.

Does the Ukrainian constitution address referenda and autonomy?
Yes. It states that ALL Ukrainians, not just those in the affected areas, get to vote on the matter. This was the issue a few years ago when the Donbas talked of seceding; when Kyiv pointed this out, the separatists’ sponsor, Russia, cried FOUL!

Rule of law, you know: it’s what tries to keep the world from anarchy and chaos.

[caww]

The question is when hasn’t Ukraine had conflict? If they aren’t battling someone they’re fighting with each other.

[ought-six]

“I am an American.”

Are you?

[ought-six]

How is that responsive to the question we are addressing?

[ought-six]

“You ask a lot of questions with answers you already know.”

Do I, now.

[ought-six]

“Do you think they’d give Russia a favorable grade - ever! Of course not.”

Too funny! That list is a composite; Facts Institute just compiles data. It doesn’t care what the data show.

[mac_truck]

And what if Bidens position on Ukraine is the correct one?

I'd say your on the wrong forum or here just to troll people.

In your case its both.

[SecAmndmt]

Let’s survey them? I could probably name names, but why bother? The point is that FR has its deep state gate keepers and provocateurs, just like all the other social media.

[Allegra]

You support Weaponizing Ukraine?

Are you on drugs? Where the hell are you getting that nonsense?

Before you make such crazy, outlandish assumptions, perhaps you should do some research. Find a post anywhere that *ever* had me supporting “weaponizing” Ukraine. Find a post of mine that has me supporting even one dollar of US taxpayer money going to that mincing grifter Zelensky and his minions.

The whole Eastern European Troll Squad (EETS) on FR has been apoplectic and nasty at my comments about the Zelensky Fan Club. We strongly dislike each other.

I don’t know where you’re coming from accusing me of supporting Biden and Ukraine, but you can eff right off with that crap.

[SecAmndmt]

Labeling or othering ppl as “conspiracy loons” because they don’t believe the narrative is a tactic of the political left. Did you believe that Russia Russia Russia was a DNC-hunded hoax? Do you believe that the 2020 election was stolen? If your answers are “yes”, then according to the Dems, you are a dangerous conspiracy loon. Virtually every single narrative has been proven false.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Your claims are based on what? Why would they be believable?

It's based on observations of the glorious Russian world!

Russians living in their natural habitat, with drunks laid out on the road (NSFW):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3QDeyRc1Q

Dreary Russian architecture spiced up with... drunkies fighting in the mud!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uVoY_8WF2U

Toilets? Who needs em!?:

"Russia’s strange acceptance of the sewage pit

Sewer systems in Russia have been neglected for decades. Many citizens do not even have access to working water closets, and some public infrastructure has literally collapsed due to unmaintained sewage lines. However unattractive this fact may be, it should be taken seriously as it attests to wider societal problems in Russia."

...

"For a civilised person, horrific figures of sewer statistics sound like a dooming sentence to the country and its culture. But millions of Russians do not know what a clean, warm toilet is, and hence do not feel like savages."

https://neweasterneurope.eu/2019/04/16/russias-strange-acceptance-of-the-sewage-pit/

"According to a new report by Russia’s state statistical agency, Rosstat, 35 million Russians live in houses or apartments without indoor toilets, 47 million do not have hot water, 29 million don’t have any running water inside their residences, and 22 million do not have central heating (ehorussia.com/new/node/17679).

In fact, only 62.7 percent of the Russian population has the usual accoutrements of modern existence – water in the house, plumbing, heating and gas or electric ranges, Rosstat says, a fact that must seem incredible to those who visit only Moscow or St. Petersburg but a fact of life for those who lives beyond the ring roads of the capitals."

https://russialist.org/one-russian-in-four-lacks-an-indoor-toilet-one-of-many-signs-there-are-now-four-distinct-russias/

"Russian City So Polluted Skies Turn Black"

https://weather.com/en-CA/international/videos/video/russian-city-so-polluted-skies-turn-black-residents-urged-to-leave

"Dzerzhinsk, the dirtiest Russian city - From Moscow to Murmansk

23,492 views Nov 6, 2017 Dzerzhinsk is one of the 10 most dirty cities in the world. Jelle speaks with the inhabitants that claim they can guess at which tram stop they are just by smelling it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOz3JNLy41I

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

The left and neocons are holding hands on this one

All far left parties in Europe, as well as the Communist Party USA, Socialist Party, etc., and such "luminaries" as Chomsky, and other socialists in the USA, are united with Russia and China.

Mother Jones is not ALL of the left, just like assholes like Tucker Carlson are not ALL of the Right.

[Grzegorz 246]

“Vladimir Putin will formally annex occupied regions of Ukraine to Russian in a major speech tomorrow”

A day later Ukes should formally annex Kamchatka.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

For those with a little time, I recommend going on Google Maps a

Alternatively, you can see my post, which does pretty much the same thing with results contrary to your assertions.

[9YearLurker]

Wow—what are you, a NATO/Deep State shill?!?

[MarMema]

I was simply asking.

[MarMema]

Oh look. The truth begins to come out.
They do support Biden, in at least one issue.

[MarMema]

Some freepers do.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4096906/posts?page=91#91

[MarMema]

You should have seen Detroit ten yrs ago.

These are not the norm for Russia.