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47 deputies stripped of guns after failing psych tests
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | Tuesday, September 27th 2022

Posted on 09/27/2022 9:32:47 PM PDT by cuz1961

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The Alameda County Sheriff’s Office in Northern California has stripped 47 deputies — 10% of the force — of their guns and arrest powers because they failed psychological exams, it was reported Monday.

. . .The move came after the Sheriff’s Office conducted an internal audit of deputies’ psychological examinations from January 2016 to the present... . . The Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, ... ... ...an Oakland nonprofit that deals with .... ..race.. .. and criminal justice issues, .... ..accused the Sheriff’s Office of previously turning a “blind eye” to the problem of unsuited deputies. . .

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(Excerpt) Read more at krcrtv.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: alamedacounty; banglist; california; donutwatch; lawenforcement; police; psychtests
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To: lee martell

Will these tests be given to the new hired IRS agents?


41 posted on 09/28/2022 5:29:00 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: cuz1961

It about time to strip democrats of their powers which are out of step with the main stream.


42 posted on 09/28/2022 5:31:55 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: cuz1961

Just another reason to let the thieves and muggers and rapists continue their dirty work on street corners in broad day light.


43 posted on 09/28/2022 5:33:22 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: cuz1961
There are many law enforcement people who need to be fired or prosecuted and also prevented from working law enforcement jobs - IMHO.

Too many goons ... E.G., DC cops, FBI to name a few.

44 posted on 09/28/2022 5:44:42 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: cuz1961

I’m thinking failing a psych test out there could come as a result of not using someone’s preferred pronouns.


45 posted on 09/28/2022 6:14:33 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: bk1000

I’m thinking this is most of the reason...
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..Defund Fear

The book by Ella Baker Center Executive Director Zachary Norris weaves together his experiences .........and strategies .....alongside stories from community members ......and activists...... to create a blueprint .....for a world ...

beyond police, ...
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prisons .......and punishment.


46 posted on 09/28/2022 6:22:26 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: dragnet2
It’s an attempt to limit liability.

Yea a really stupid one. All these deputies are going to sue and win bigly. By taking this action the county has removed these deputies from their positions without due process and rendered them unemployable.

No other agency can or will employ these people.

47 posted on 09/28/2022 6:33:37 AM PDT by usurper
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To: cuz1961

My psych test in the Army in 1970 was to name the President. Anyone, who said Sniffer should be passed.


48 posted on 09/28/2022 6:45:13 AM PDT by depressed in 06
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To: cuz1961

Anyone can be made to fail a psycholgical exam, which is what makes this practice scary.

I don’t doubt but that inappropriate dudes for the job represent 10% of hires, but I am skeptical of their ability to weed them out with such tests.


49 posted on 09/28/2022 6:57:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cuz1961

Take them all out of paramilitary gear and dress them in Mr. Rogers zip-up sweaters — and even the bad ones might calm down.


50 posted on 09/28/2022 6:59:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: lee martell
Ex-Gang Members?

No. Worse, They are Republicans.

51 posted on 09/28/2022 7:11:52 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I said for years that the difference between a cop and criminal is impulse control. A good cop needs to think like a criminal to catch a criminal. Unfortunately, some of these cops let their newfound power take control of them and then the problems start.


52 posted on 09/28/2022 7:18:53 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: ryderann

That was my thought. The purge of the ‘deplorables’. They can’t be in positions of authority. More politicization of out authorities.


53 posted on 09/28/2022 7:24:40 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: cuz1961; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; ...
The war on all LEO continues .

I beg to differ, not ALL LEOs, but the ones who flunked their required pre-employment psych eval do need to go.

According to Dr. Clarissa Cole fully HALF the ones she failed were hired anyway. Anyone who knowingly hires a known sociopath, gives them a gun and authority over any random strager the encounter needs to be held fully and personally responsible for their actions.

This is a good start.

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“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker

Dr. Clarissa Cole on After Hours AM April 17, 2019

(Start at 1:18:31)

Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!

Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?

Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.

He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.

Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…

Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.

Eric Olsen: Sure.

Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?

Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.

Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.

Eric Olsen: What?

Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.

Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?

Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways

Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?

Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad is a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.

And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…

Eric Olsen: What would cause one…

Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not

Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.

Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.

Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?

Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” “No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him” and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.

Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.

Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.

Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...

Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…

(End at 1:23:29)

54 posted on 09/28/2022 8:06:55 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Yes. The tests are required.

50% of the ones who flat out FAILED are hired anyway.

This has to stop.


55 posted on 09/28/2022 8:11:59 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: L.A.Justice
Sheriff thought that he could hire people with that evaluation...But, the County lawyer told him that he cannot do that according to the CA law...

Now that known sociopaths are on the force and carrying arms against every person they meet, what remedy would you propose?

56 posted on 09/28/2022 8:17:22 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: Gnome1949
How do lunatics get to decide who is crazy?

It takes one to know one...

57 posted on 09/28/2022 8:18:23 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: null and void

the ones who flunked their required pre-employment psych eval do need to go.

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Psych eval done by an org who’s own stated goal is:

. to create a blueprint .....for a world ...

beyond police, ...
..
.

prisons .......and punishment.

/\


58 posted on 09/28/2022 8:19:39 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

I’d say their judgement

is beyond whack.


59 posted on 09/28/2022 8:20:25 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: krogers58
According to the article at the link, the deputy who shot the couple was romantically involved with the wife, and was unaware that she was married.

That's hilarious.

Once upon a time I dated a married woman. She neglected to tell me she was married...

...to a Marine Corps drill instructor!

True story.

60 posted on 09/28/2022 8:21:15 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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