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Ukraine is not worth the $10s of trillions that it will cost the US and the West in terms of tanked asset prices, increased cost of living, and lost economic growth.
1 posted on 09/26/2022 4:21:19 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Didn’t read the article, bur van den Shovel gets it right for once.


2 posted on 09/26/2022 4:24:00 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: FarCenter

Going to be hard to ‘gear up’ when you are economically imploding and your national debt continues to balloon past 30 trillion dollars.....


3 posted on 09/26/2022 4:25:16 AM PDT by cranked
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To: FarCenter
We are being played for fools.


4 posted on 09/26/2022 4:31:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FarCenter

And not just unneeded war. Spending trillions to colonize the moon or mars is no better. Time to “live within our means” instead of frivolously throwing away our Grandkids future prosperity and enslaving them.


5 posted on 09/26/2022 4:42:06 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: FarCenter
What do Americans care about? Not a cold war

LOL, Katrina vanden Heuvel? Seriously? When has she ever been right?

The January 6 Committee’s Audience Won’t Match Watergate’s. But It Should.- Republicans have already accepted Trump’s “big lie” that the television landscape has changed.

The US Needs a Better Gun Policy. Democrats Can Make It Happen.

President Donald Trump’s greatest dereliction of duty — his disgraceful denial of climate change

Trumps Most Dangerous Betrayal Yet


6 posted on 09/26/2022 4:42:39 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: FarCenter

30 percent of my paycheck is take by the federal government, the stat of Michigan, and the local governments therein before I even see it. I could almost buy a new car in the lower price range with what is taken out of my check at the end of the year. That is before inflation eats up money I’d normally try to put into savings each month. The federal government spies on its own citizens, and calls veterans (among many others) domestic terrorists in waiting. We have unchecked invasion ongoing at the southern border. We have unelected billionaires trying to influence government and destroy our economy, our food supply, our supply chains under the guide of some contrived climate emergency. So, yeah, totally concerned about what’s going on elsewhere in the world.


7 posted on 09/26/2022 4:43:35 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: All

What would George Washington do?


8 posted on 09/26/2022 4:46:22 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: FarCenter

KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Say no morw!


9 posted on 09/26/2022 4:50:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: FarCenter
You can stop reading at KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL. Always.


13 posted on 09/26/2022 5:16:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: FarCenter
It's been a revelation to me of how seriously unserious the American People really are:

Don't want to go fight in Vietnam? No problem! Just head out into the street and support the enemy!

The federal govenrment has kept growing and spending and ignoring the Constitution? All we care about is whether we get our Egg McMuffin in time.

The Soviets - I mean Russians - invade a sovereign country and kill thousands? Not our problem..

The Federal government arrest and imprisons Trump supporters for an enthusiastic demonstration that is labelled as an "insurrection" and holds them indefinitely. Wonder what's on TV tonight?

The FBI has finally stooped to arrest a father of seven for pushing an abortion escort who was aggressive with his young son. Crickets.

It is impossible to underestimate the average commitment of our fellow citizens.

15 posted on 09/26/2022 5:39:14 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: FarCenter

“US President Joe Biden’s administration will soon release its National Security Strategy”

My prediction for the new ‘strategy’: “If Russia doesn’t leave all of we deem to be Ukraine, then we’ll nuke Moscow”

Putin has made it clear that this is two-way street, and he certainly has the means to do just that.

I’m just glad that Trump is gone and replaced by RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP, as Trump was going to get us into a nuclear war.


16 posted on 09/26/2022 5:41:05 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 43 degrees)
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To: FarCenter

Biden, Blinken and Milley are doing everything that can to make sure there is no cold war. Now a hot nuclear war in Europe, that’s a different story.


18 posted on 09/26/2022 6:03:53 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: FarCenter

1/17

‘In Ukraine’s South, Fierce Fighting and Deadly Costs’

https://archive.ph/MtHyd#selection-383.0-383.52

2/17

‘Russia Counterblow, NYT Admits Ukraine Massive Losses in Stalled Offensive; UK Teeters on The Brink’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjkOTAPqwj8

3/17

The “Kharkiv counteroffensive” was a sham.

There is no such thing.

According to Democracy Now, The Guardian, and others the Ukes gained 1,000 sq km. That’s it, not Zel’s claimed 6k. The size of Rhode Island. BBC reported that Russia has 1/5 of Ukraine, so the Ukes gained back less than 1%.

Kiev regime losses included numerous heavy armor, an acceptable trade for a few towns.

This 1984-style propaganda from Ukraine is past old. Ukraine’s soldiers can achieve nothing as it is foreign soldiers supposedly being “volunteers” that have made scant gains.

There was no Kharkiv counteroffensive as there was little defending forces there but yet Ukraine lost too much heavy armor to make a few villages gained worth it.

4/17

The Guardian, Democracy Now, and others reported that a mere 1,000 square kilometers were retaken by Ukraine, not Zel’s claimed 6000 sq km.

The BBC reported that about 1/5 of Ukraine has been conquered by Russia. So Ukrainians retaking 1km square kilometers of 1/5 of Ukraine turns out to be less than 1% of 1/5 of Ukrainr, an area the size of Rhode Island, and all the while Russia has made recent advancements into areas of southern Ukraine.

Ukraine took back land the size of Rhode Island (as Russia took more land in the south) and Ukrainian leaders have said publicly they are “worried” if they can even keep it.

5/17

Zelensky Says Ukraine Has Retaken 6,000 Square KM, But Army “Worried” About Defending It

https://zububrothers.com/2022/09/13/zelensky-says-ukraine-has-retaken-6000-square-km-but-army-worried-about-defending-it/

6/17

Just one of many that reported on these leaked Ukrainian documents put all over the net. This was from some time back that leaked Ukrainian documents showed Ukraine has lost 50% of its trained military, so who knows how bad it is now.

Unconfirmed leaked data from the Armed Forces of Ukraine General Staff:
- The AFU are only 43-48% complete;
- medical workers at the limit of their strength: the seriously wounded are transported to Europe;
- small arms and bulletproof vests are not enough;

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1555546218608365568

This is backed up by other reports.

7/17

Polls: Americans Oppose Increasing Ukraine Aid, Defending Global Democracy

http://zububrothers.com/2022/09/21/polls-americans-oppose-increasing-ukraine-aid-defending-global-democracy/

8/17

WION
9/4/22

Around 70,000 people protest against government in Prague over rising inflation

https://youtu.be/VdN9cD6nZcU

9/17

REPLAY: Energy Protests in Lubmin, Germany
9/25/22

Live from Lubmin on Sunday, September 25, as people take to the streets to protest against current energy policies, skyrocketing prices, and inflation. Protesters demand the immediate opening of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. The Nord Stream 2 project, a second pipeline pumping gas from Russia to Germany, was unilaterally suspended by Berlin in February following the conflict in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/EI7KAXyUhVg

10/17

Wave Of German Insolvencies Picks Up Speed…”Tenfold Increase in Gas, Electricity Prices”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/11/wave-of-german-insolvencies-picks-up-speedtenfold-increase-in-gas-electricity-prices/

11/17

BBC News
Energy crisis: Could Italy’s next government drop Russian sanctions?
9/16/22

https://youtu.be/y2sEWe6lU9I

12/17

WION
Belgium Residents Protest High Cost of Living
9/22/22

Thousands gathered in Brussels, Belgium today to demand the government take more action as many struggle to pay bills. Energy prices in Belgium and other European countries have shot up over the past months, partly driven by the fallout of the war in Ukraine. Our correspondent Rosie Birchard spoke to some of the protesters about their concerns as Europe’s winter approaches.

https://youtu.be/z5Y67gnLJwA

13/17

France24
In Bulgaria, Russophiles celebrate Putin
9/25/22

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220925-in-bulgaria-russophiles-celebrate-putin

14/17

European Union President Proposes Cutting Off Electricity to Consumers to ‘Flatten the Curve’
9/13/22

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4093184/posts

15/17

“92 year old votes in Kherson referendum: “I’ve lived longer in USSR than independent Ukraine. I can see that under 🇺🇦 everything was stolen, deindustrialized. My whole life we lived together normally together, with 🇷🇺.”

https://twitter.com/KhersonFrom/status/1574130629595258880

16/17

“I am against Ukraine, it has not brought me anything good in life.” A resident of the LPR, having voted at referendum in favor of joining the Russian Federation, tore up her Ukrainian passport!”

https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1574104233741373441

17/17

“50,000 Muscovites rallied to support the referendum. Westerners don’t realize the whole reason this conflict’s happening now is because Ukraine bombed Donbass for 8 years & when they voted to be independent, Ukraine didn’t like it & bombed them again. This was a long time coming.”

https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1573339128619728896

18/17

Ukraine ‘shells’ occupied areas amid vote
9/26/22

“Voting in internationally criticised referendums for four Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories to become part of Russia has continued into its third day despite shelling by Ukrainian forces. ...”

https://www.yarrawongachronicle.com.au/world/ukraine-shells-occupied-areas-amid-vote/

This shelling during voting explains the presence of Russian soldiers in numerous voting areas.

The presence of troops in the voting areas would allay the fears of people voting. They would be voting unprotected in case of Ukrainian troops attacking them, or attempting to arrest them, especially so if any voting areas were close(r) to the battle lines.

The rised hand assembly vote in Kosovo in 2008 for independence wasn’t even close to a referendum (which is taking place in Donetsk, Luhansk, etc), went against the Serbian constitution, thus was without the permission of Serbian authorities, and yet was hastily accepted by the west/NATO/EU.

19/17

Ukraine Threatens 5-Year Prison Sentence For Anyone Voting In “Sham Referendums”
9/22/22

http://zububrothers.com/2022/09/22/ukraine-threatens-5-year-prison-sentence-for-anyone-voting-in-sham-referendums/

20/17

Zel threatens voters and yet they still peacefully line up to vote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR3r9DyVUfA&t=69s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CuiyWNrCV0


21 posted on 09/26/2022 10:46:59 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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