Why are you getting emotional about this? There is no emotion involved to understand what Russia is doing.
We don’t determine what Russias red lines are. Russians determine what they are. And I already told you Ukraine has a special significance if it went NATO: control of commodities and maritime lines of communication. It’s different than other countries strategically. Why are you having a problem with that?
I could give two shits what the Donetsk people want, or what propaganda was manufactured. I am looking (let me say this one last time) through a Russian viewpoint. I don’t argue the morality, I argue the reality of what is happening.
Russia doesn’t care about anything other than their laws. Positive? Natural? Really? Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Four provinces will be annexed and they will be a part of the Russian Federation. In rapid fashion. Once the results are sent to Putin for signature, it’s done. From a Russian viewpoint, it will be enforced as if those provinces are a part of Russia. If that means nukes, then that is what that means. His newly minted 300K conscripts will be trained and deployed in about 2 months.
When winter hits, Europe will be in no condition to do anything about it because their countries will be starving and freezing to death. Not that they would anyway.
Why do you want to look at things through the perspectives of Russia? Russia is immoral, corrupt, and incompetent. Ukraine, a one-time-zone country is kicking the teeth out of the eleven-time-zone country. And oh by the way Russia us a sworn enemy of America and Russia is making war against its own people.