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Former adviser sees influence by Chinese President Xi Jinping in Putin's recent decisions
Deutsche Welle ^ | 24.09.2022 | Aureliusz M. Pedziwol

Posted on 09/24/2022 6:02:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

It looks like the most important event was Mr. Putin's return to Moscow from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in Samarkand. It seems that Putin had some conversations there that forced him to make all those decisions.

The only meaningful person who could have such a conversation with Putin is Chairman Xi. So Xi seems to have told Putin something that forced Putin to reverse his attitudes towards the war, to radically change his previous plans for "referendums," for mobilization and for nuclear blackmail.

Can you guess what Xi said to Putin?

We don't know. But based on some leaks and on their body language, I would not exclude the possibility that Xi suggested to his junior partner to finish his business against Ukraine as soon as possible — for example, before the National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party in October — and not with Putin's defeat. The fact that Russia has been waging war for seven months and has not been victorious is an embarrassment to Xi and makes him look weak before the most important event in his life. But Xi cannot allow himself to look weak.

Returning to Putin's speech on Wednesday, what will partial mobilization in Russia mean for the course of the war and for Russia itself? Do you think that it is evidence of the failure of Putin's Russia in this war?

This decision is a clear sign of a radical change in the strategy Putin has been pursuing for several months. Before Samarkand, Putin was ready to continue a long-term war of attrition — for years if necessary. The decisions of the last few days mean that his strategy has been radically changed. These are not signs of his weakness or defeat; these are signs of his dependence on Xi.

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; putin; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 09/24/2022 6:02:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Putin’s former adviser for almost six years, until 2005, Andrei Illarionov, believes that Xi Jinping is the impetus behind the decision to institute a universal draft in the guise of a limited one. The suggestion here is that Putin is somehow beholden to Xi. If Xi is in fact bankrolling Putin’s venture in Ukraine, it remains to be seen whether that support will be sufficient to see Russia’s war efforts to victory.


2 posted on 09/24/2022 6:02:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

Xi has Biden by the nuts. No, just nut. And that has to be the smallest nut in maledom.


3 posted on 09/24/2022 6:08:34 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Zhang Fei

First we got rumors of an imaginary coup against Xi, and now rumors of an imaginary meeting between Putin and Xi.


4 posted on 09/24/2022 6:12:51 PM PDT by devere
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To: Zhang Fei
there is some information out there that there is a Coup in China going on right now. I am not familiar with the sources except MSM.
5 posted on 09/24/2022 6:14:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Da Coyote

This article is from Germany’s DW.

Someone also has them, and DW is the one who wants this war to wrap up soon.

RUSSIANS ARE TROLLING EUROPEANS BY LIVE STREAMING THIER STOVES BURNING 24/7

https://youtu.be/q8Zqnj_vAIo


6 posted on 09/24/2022 6:14:37 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Da Coyote

Xi wants a swath of Siberia. They’re already colonizing it and the ‘stans. Russia can afford some land, plus Xi backs Putin, Putin backs Xi. This will get very, very interesting.


7 posted on 09/24/2022 6:15:55 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Zhang Fei

Interesting article. I agree that Russia is a junior partner to China. However, I don’t see Putin as a protege of XI; Putin has too much of an ego for such a role. Maybe a relationship similar to that between Hitler and Mussolini.


8 posted on 09/24/2022 6:15:57 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: thinden

Addition to your top 10+ list for the master of Zho Bai Din!


9 posted on 09/24/2022 6:16:18 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: devere

“First we got rumors of an imaginary coup against Xi, and now rumors of an imaginary meeting between Putin and Xi.”

Didn’t they meet at the SCO meet-up?


10 posted on 09/24/2022 6:17:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: mountainlion

“there is some information out there that there is a Coup in China going on right now. I am not familiar with the sources except MSM.”

I don’t think that is the case. There’s something going on, though.


11 posted on 09/24/2022 6:18:13 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Zhang Fei

More nonsense being posted.


12 posted on 09/24/2022 6:19:48 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanx grampa dave.

I’ll read it right after the game


13 posted on 09/24/2022 6:40:52 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up....)
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To: Zhang Fei

Due to this relationship and the real estate situation in China, I’ve been wondering what happens if China suddenly dumps it’s $800B worth of US debt onto the market all at once. Bond prices would plummet, interest rates would soar higher... would impact more then just the U.S.

I could see it as a precursor to a move on Taiwan


14 posted on 09/24/2022 6:42:48 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: reed13k

Correction $980 Billion....in June


15 posted on 09/24/2022 6:43:58 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Zhang Fei

America’s evil neocons got us into a long-term, debilitating war with Russia where both sides will be reduced - and who will benefit???

CHINA.


16 posted on 09/24/2022 6:49:42 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ought-six

Not that I know of.


17 posted on 09/24/2022 7:00:56 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

“Not that I know of.”

I thought they had. Looks like they did.

See:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/15/hat-in-hand-putin-meets-xi-at-summit-in-samarkand


18 posted on 09/24/2022 7:05:13 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Zhang Fei

No doubt that Xi and Putin or their people have been in some meetings behind the scenes. It’s been obvious over the years that they are cooking up a few schemes.


19 posted on 09/24/2022 7:08:22 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Zhang Fei
Notice the date.

US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]
06JUL05
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437369/posts

20 posted on 09/24/2022 7:18:39 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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