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To: BobL

Bob, The minute the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014 the Ukrainian Constitution ceased to be a relevant consideration for deciding issues of political obligation.

I’m amused by the storm of utterly mendacious stories that are being posted here to inflame the ignorant, antique prejudices of the thoughtless, incurious, and mentally diminished elderly.


34 posted on 09/24/2022 9:46:22 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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Add: the ‘forgotten history’ of Ukraine government of PUTIN’S PUPPET President Viktor Yanukovych.

7 February 2010 Yanukovych won election saying “Ukraine’s integration with the EU REMAINS our strategic aim”, with a “balanced policy, which will protect our national interests both on our eastern border – I mean with Russia – and of course with the European Union.”

In 2006, a criminal charge was made for the falsification of documents regarding the retraction of Yanukovych’s prior conviction. Two documents had been forged regarding Yanukovych’s robbery in association with rape and assault and battery. Yanukovych had been a member of “a group of individuals who brutally beat and raped a woman, but bought off the victim and the criminal case was closed.” The signature of the judge for these documents was forged.]

In Jaroslav Krejci’s “Great Revolutions Compared: The Outline of a Theory provides a useful conceptual framework with which to study revolution” Revolution is not a single event, but rather a period of a “revolutionary process.”

Yanukovych had an estimated net worth of $12 billion, misappropriating funds from Ukraine’s treasury of $70 billion transferred to foreign accounts during Yanukovych’s presidency. Switzerland, Austria and Liechtenstein froze the assets of Yanukovych and his son Oleksander on 28 February 2014 pending his money laundering investigation.

***BTW, during the presidency of Viktor Yanukovych, more than 7,000 Ukrainian companies were attacked by the so-called “Yanukovych Families” [think mofioso] including cases of the ‘Family’ entering the corporate rights of the firms by illegal methods, and “assaults” in order to obtain “tribute” of commercial gain. The victims of Yanukovych’s ‘family’ raiders were offered to pay a regular “tribute” in the amount of 30–50% of the company’s profits or cede ownership of it.

The same day that parliament removed Yanukovych from office, it voted to authorize the release of his rival Yulia Tymoshenko from a prison hospital. She had been imprisoned since 2011, in what many saw as political payback by Yanukovych. Ukraine economy had suffered greatly because of PUTIN’S PUPPET President Viktor Yanukovych. After a long series of protests of his rejection of his prior Ukrainian-European Association Agreement the Euromaidan protests started because Ukrainian citizens demanded stronger integration with the European Union.

***The EUROMAIDAN began in Independence Square on 21 November, THE SAME DAY Yanukovych abruptly changed his mind for an Association Agreement with the European Union AFTER RECEIVING A LOAN FROM PUTIN! YANUKOVVCH THEN decided to strengthen economic ties with Russia.***

When the sovereign nation of Ukraine chose to join NATO PUTIN WAS ENRAGED! How dare Ukraine attempt to dissolve his dreams to restore the Russian empire!

On 20 FEBRUARY 2014, PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE TO SALVAGE HIS LOST INFLUENCE IN UKRAINE! This invasion of Ukraine was ENTIRELY PUTIN’S DECISION. Encouraged by Russian troops & politicians, pro-Russia separatist rebels began to seize territory in eastern Ukraine.

INTERESTINGLY, also on 21 February 2014, Yanukovych claimed he had reached an agreement with the opposition. SECRETLY, YANUKOVVCH RAN AWAY FROM THE CAPITOL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO MOSCOW!

THEN ON 22 FEBRUARY 2014, the Ukrainian parliament VOTED to remove YANUKOVVCH from his post and schedule new elections on the grounds that he “has restrained himself from performing his constitutional duties” and effectively resigned.


70 posted on 09/24/2022 11:10:21 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: achilles2000
The minute the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014 the Ukrainian Constitution ceased to be a relevant consideration for deciding issues of political obligation.

That sentence may reflect you own mental diminishment, but it is factually untrue and more of the kind of fantasy Putin and his talking point pals have.

Even if your false belief were true, the present Ukrainian government was elected in 2019. So what happened in 2014 is not relevant anymore because that government - legitimate or not - no longer is in power.

113 posted on 09/24/2022 4:26:31 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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