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Putin's Army in shambles: Bungling officials try to recruit the DEAD to fight in Ukraine war - as Russians who have been forced into conscription drink themselves senseless
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 24, 2022 | Walter Finch

Posted on 09/24/2022 6:37:08 AM PDT by C19fan

Vladimir Putin's chaotic conscription of the Russian male population continues as more videos emerge of drunken insubordination and brawling by those being drafted into the Ukrainian meatgrinder.

Just days after the Russian dictator announced a partial mobilisation, the true reality of Putin's vicious war in the Donbas is evidently coming home to the desperate citizens of Russia, as thousands have received their call up orders.

Videos show reluctant conscripts at recruitment offices and staging points hitting the bottle and drinking themselves senseless as military commanders try to coral them into order before boarding buses and planes.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 000spamspamspam; conscription; dailymail; globalistpropaganda; russia; ukraine
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To: C19fan

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41 posted on 09/24/2022 7:42:13 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: C19fan
https://sonar21.com/will-europe-break-with-the-united-states/

The Russia/Ukraine war already has created significant fissures among EU members, with Hungary refusing to impose further sanctions on Russia. Cold, hungry voters will become increasingly outraged at sending millions of dollars to Ukraine while deprivation multiples from Berlin to London.

Europe’s rift with Russia is huge and Russia is not in a mood to forgive the insults hurled at all things Russian, theft of Russian financial resources and Europe’s facilitation of terrorist attacks on the soon to be new Russian citizens from the oblasts of Kherson, Zaporhyzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk. Russia holds the critical trump card–it can turn on the flow of gas and oil essential to rekindle manufacturing and home heating in Europe. But I do not think Russia will do so without a quid pro quo. What could that be?

How about Europe breaking with NATO? Or, more simply put, the break up of NATO. Up to this point Europe has embraced the delusion that Russia cannot function economically without a European market. The last six months of Russia’s Special Military Operation have proven that the opposite is true–without Russia’s key resources Europe is a dead economy walking naked into a frozen winter.

42 posted on 09/24/2022 7:43:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: alloysteel
"But then, the Russians already have the Chechens from whom they could recruit."

Here's the thing about that -- the moment someone convince$ Kadyrov to flip again against the New Soviet, he's issuing Order 66 and those Checknyuknyuknuyks are firing away at the backs of the New Soviet generals.

43 posted on 09/24/2022 7:43:28 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: C19fan
https://sonar21.com/will-europe-break-with-the-united-states/

The United States is facing its own looming economic disaster. The collapse of the stock market–now down over 20% since the first of the year–is likely to continue. Notwithstanding the Biden administration’s strident insistence that there is no recession, the signs of recession are mounting, especially in the housing market. But the worsening economic picture is not yet sufficient to generate the necessary political pressure among the propagandized American electorate to back away from sending billions to Ukraine. A major shock of stagflation or a collapse of the Ukrainian army, however, could change that calculus.

The United States and Europe are playing a high stakes poker game with Russia. They’ve bet all their chips that Ukraine will either defeat Russia or force Russia to the bargaining table and that Putin, with hat in hand, will crawl on his belly before the western masters and beg for relief. That is insane. But there are many politicians and pundits inhabiting the dark corners of Washington who keenly believe this fantasy.

Russia does not play poker. Russia plays chess and plays it well. Russia’s burgeoning trade and military relations with China, Iran, India and Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Brazil is making Putin’s position stronger, not weaker. The eventual collapse of Ukraine as a result of a wrecked economy and/or battlefield defeats, will be more than a black eye for NATO and, by extension, Europe. It would likely destroy the raison detre’ for NATO. That in turn will lay the foundation for a rapprochement with Russia sans the United States.

The age of the United States’ Colossus is nearing its end. Uncle Sam will no longer have a pack of yipping European Yorkshires, Poodles and Dachshunds on a leash. I think we are on the threshold of a new multi-polar international order.

44 posted on 09/24/2022 7:46:03 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: dforest



45 posted on 09/24/2022 7:46:38 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: TreasonObserver

The war will continue as long as the Democrats in the States can make money from it. The longer it continues, the more taxpayer dollars then ywill send over there. The more money sent, the more that can be skimmed off the top. The Neo Con Democrats will keep the war going as long as they are Americans and dollars to send over there. AS long as there is money to be stolen the killing will continue. The George Soros worshipers will demand it.


46 posted on 09/24/2022 7:47:22 AM PDT by sport
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47 posted on 09/24/2022 7:50:02 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: foundedonpurpose

The western state-run corporate media is throwing every Russian stereotype they have into this fight!


48 posted on 09/24/2022 7:50:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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49 posted on 09/24/2022 7:52:03 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: sport

I am beginning to wonder if this is what the stolen election was all about.


50 posted on 09/24/2022 7:53:17 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: C19fan
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/rekindling-its-iraq-wmd-fiasco-the-new-york-times-is-back-at-printing-officials-said.html#more

Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing 'Officials Said'

At first I wondered why the New York Times homepage editor would put a piece about Putin and his alleged involvement in war strategy under 'U.S. Politics'.

But after reading

As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy

I understand the qualification.

Some quotes:

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has [...], American officials said, ...

American officials briefed on highly sensitive intelligence said ...

... his involvement has created tensions, American officials said.

The officials said ...

..., Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an interview on Friday.

... is to both sides, American officials said.

Some American officials said they saw trouble ahead ...

A senior U.S. official said this week ...

...could eventually be threatened, American officials said.

Senior Russian officers repeatedly questioned [...], American officials said, ...

The Russian officers believed [...], American officials said.

... focused on massive artillery barrages, American officials said.

... hit by Ukrainian fire, Ukrainian officials said.

... said Seth G. Jones, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

... said Michael Kofman, director of Russia studies at CNA, a defense research institute in Arlington, Va.

..., U.S. officials say Mr. Putin believes ...

... American officials have said that Mr. Putin has not been given accurate information ...

Mr. Putin, an American official said, has opposed ...

..., American officials said Russian officers themselves are divided ...

Adding up we have:

anonymous American/U.S. official/s [said/have said/say]: 15 times,
named American semi-officials (Jones, Kofman): 2 times,
a named American official (Milley): 1 time,
anonymous Ukrainian officials: 1 time.
There are no other sources in the piece.

Would you believe that it took 4 (FOUR) NYT 'reporters', Julian E. Barnes, Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Michael Schwirtz, to stenograph that nonsense?

A lot of anonymous American officials said that the U.S. was winning its wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. Anonymous American officials said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The NYT printed all those false claims without providing evidence for their veracity.

There was some agonizing after the Iraq WMD claims turned out to be false. The NYT and other media promised to do better and to restrict the use of anonymous sources:

Under our guidelines, anonymous sources should be used only for information that we think is newsworthy and credible, and that we are not able to report any other way.

... We understand readers’ wariness, but many important stories in sensitive areas like politics, national security and business could never be reported if we banned anonymous sourcing. Sources often fear for their jobs or business relationships — sometimes even for their safety. Those anonymous American officials quoted in the above NYT piece are distributing 'newsworthy' and 'credible' information? Even some they very obviously have no way to obtain ('Mr. Putin believes ...')? They must be fearing for their jobs and safety when they reveal the secrets of Putin's believes to those assiduous NYT 'reporters'?

Or its all just another bunch of lies. Not only what the American officials say but also what the NYT claims to be. The above piece is not the result of journalism by independent media but the outcome of intense collaboration between a quasi state organ and the Biden administration. It is an information operation waged against its own people and propaganda for a real war waged against Russia.

Why do they expect anyone to pay for this dreck?

51 posted on 09/24/2022 7:55:16 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

Those men look fine. Looks like they are showing up to do this “duty”.

It is very tragic though. We can already guess most of their fates.


52 posted on 09/24/2022 7:55:45 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: marcusmaximus

The worse ethnic hatred is always for members of ones own race (e.g. “The Troubles” in Ireland). At the core of it is self loathing.


53 posted on 09/24/2022 7:55:49 AM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: bert

Military summary shows the western and eastern maps. Diagnosing both. No map is moving every hour, that there is propaganda. That’s not how was are fought, battles come and goes as planned event’s and lines have to hold at time to make sure the equipment needed is there for them.


54 posted on 09/24/2022 7:57:12 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (raise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: Kazan

You enjoy cheering on the grotesque bully against the smaller country. But the smaller country has humiliated your bully. That is because you and your stinking army are a bunch of faggots compared to Ukrainians.


55 posted on 09/24/2022 7:57:34 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Kazan
Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye are about to become part of the Russia Federation.

Hitler annexed a much more impressive list of territories before the end of the war he started.

Saddam annexed Kuwait before the end of the war he started.

How much of those gains did they manage to hold on to?

56 posted on 09/24/2022 8:01:10 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: TreasonObserver
Those men look fine. Looks like they are showing up to do this “duty”.

Lots and lots of grey and white hair in those photos. Seems like they drafted a few grandpa's in the 18-35 age group.

57 posted on 09/24/2022 8:02:22 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: marcusmaximus

Except for the uniforms by the rifles, they are carrying this could be the 1914 Russian army.


58 posted on 09/24/2022 8:06:06 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Russia invaded Ukraine seven months ago with a 40 mile convoy of their best troops and equipment. Everyone was predicting Kyiv would fall within DAYS. Remember that, all of you anti-Ukraine “experts”. Now Putin is forced to call up replacements for his retreating and demoralized military! Same thing happened to them in Afghanistan. Putin is toast!


59 posted on 09/24/2022 8:09:08 AM PDT by deener
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To: redcatcherb412

Some of them look old. I thought governments generally expand the age range as the bodies pile up and the situation gets more and more dire. Seems like they conscripted 60 year olds.

Some look obese, “nothing a few months of open field combat and a steady diet of whatever they feed the troops” can’t fix.”

I was just talking about how they were standing reporting for duty.


60 posted on 09/24/2022 8:10:39 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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