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Oil and Natural gas prices are diving today, after the Fed hiked US interest rates.

American oil (WTI) is below $80/barrel, and European (Brent) is around $85. Natural gas prices dropped almost 4% today.

1 posted on 09/23/2022 11:41:47 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Business is going to be using less energy down the road.

Fewer businesses. Less products. It just doesn’t require
as much energy.

Disrupted markets have a funny way of causing mass
disturbances in the force.


2 posted on 09/23/2022 11:50:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; kabar

Russia is inherently not competitive on price, due to the nature of their deposits, their harsh climate and the long distances to port. Their breakeven was somewhere in the $50’s per barrel before the war.

Even once it is loaded on ships, Russian oil is mostly much further from major markets (outside of Europe), and now faces significantly higher transaction costs, like insurance, as well as those large transportation costs.

Even if prices stayed far above their Pre-COVID norms (which now does not seem likely), there are not enough tanker ships in existence to take the rest of the oil that Europe imports from Russia, on the longer trips to Asia - especially not enough arctic ice rated tankers.

On December 5th, Europe stops accepting oil tanker loads from Russia, and their export volume is going to take a hard hit, no matter what discounts they could offer. Currently, European buyers are still legally stocking up on Russian oil tanker loads, but that will end precipitously in December.

As prices drop back to their pre-COVID, pre-war norms, Russia’s breakeven price is now even higher than before. Russia is going to have to absorb the bulk, if not all, of the reduction in global demand during this developing recession. As Indian buyers are showing already, we won’t have to wait till December for that.

Russia is screwed.


3 posted on 09/23/2022 11:58:16 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Excited to learn how Putin is really a genius for the 9000th time (Russia is Venezuela in the arctic).


4 posted on 09/23/2022 12:17:05 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: BeauBo

Global recession coming. Oil and nat gas prices going down.


6 posted on 09/23/2022 12:22:02 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: BeauBo

What Modi said to Putin off-mic:

“Need better discount!”


9 posted on 09/23/2022 2:58:51 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: BeauBo

Trying to be objective here — The outlook for gas prices this winter is not so great, however. From the same source:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/A-Natural-Gas-Shortage-Is-Looming-For-The-US.html

This has been in the making ever since Brandon took office. Pubs need to hang Biden and his ilk out to dry on this one.


10 posted on 09/23/2022 4:25:39 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: BeauBo; All

Do any of our petro business types on FR know why rigs are reduced in the Permian?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/A-Natural-Gas-Shortage-Is-Looming-For-The-US.html

A coal power plant near me just went offline for good recently, too. 3 years ahead of schedule. No reason given.


11 posted on 09/23/2022 4:34:20 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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