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1 posted on 09/22/2022 9:36:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not our circus. Not our monkeys.


2 posted on 09/22/2022 9:41:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since following the events in Ukraine, it seems the West has pushed the Russia/Nukes scenario. Biden said months ago the US would not take nukes off the table.

Waiting for a false flag like those we saw in Syria.


3 posted on 09/22/2022 9:46:45 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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Rssia-Ukraine war: The western threat of nuclear annihilation’

“It was back in February that the West began to threaten Russia with nuclear war in response to a statement given by President Vladimir Putin. ...”

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-western-threat-nuclear-annihilation


6 posted on 09/22/2022 10:03:24 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Russia considering nukes on a rag tag Ukraine coupled with dragging bodies kicking and screaming, forcing them to fight, demonstrates to the world their military weakness not their strength.

At the rate they're going, if they did try a nuke it just might blow up in their faces.

7 posted on 09/22/2022 10:04:59 PM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Russia sent one nuke into Washington DC.
Would the rest of the nation give a crap?

I wouldn’t care, in fact my attitude would be:

Good bye, you democrat parasites and good riddance.

“Washington DC Delenda Est.”


14 posted on 09/22/2022 10:25:39 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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Putins preemptive nuclear doctrine threat is on the table.

As well, tactical nuclear artillery is reasonably m.j ot an option in close frontline combat, as it could cause losses to Russia’s own side.

As well, Russian doctrine also fully utilizes the “civilian as weapon”, in a strategy of forcing complete collapse of all societal function. This is also a Russian tried and true method from at least three recent conflicts, and has already been widely utilized across Ukraine.

As such, it is almost unlikely Putin would not use at least lower dialed strategic nuclear weapons.

As well, Russia has at least 3 new Chemical Weapons Brigades since 2012, with arguably the most advanced CW weapons distribution platforms in the world.

Russia already had the world’s most active and tangible Bio Weapons program in the world, but Putin ordered the continued development and significant increase in budget allocation for Bio Weapons as one of his first “formal” orders after being appointed President by Yeltsin in 1999. Of course that was just ahead of the New Years/Russian Orthodox break, so after January 7th of 2000. This is a very real threat as well, but much less likely to be used in Ukraine, as a number of those weapons don’t have reliably working anecdotes

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In late March 30/31, 2022, Russia flew two Sukhoi 24 bombers armed with nuclear missiles, with two Sukhoi 27 fighter escorts over Finish and Swedish airspace.

As these were intercepted by Swedish JAS-39’s, the SU-24’s rolled so the Swedish fighter pilots and cameras could photo the nuclear missiles.

Off and on in 2019, 2020, and heavier in 2021 Russian nuclear subs encircled Britain. The following is only a piece referencing 2021, as for about 5 years, the Royal Navy sought hard to keep a lid on the information -

https://metro-co-uk.cdn.ampprojereferct.org/v/s/metro.co.uk/2021/05/23/russian-submarines-are-constantly-circling-britains-entire-coastline-14630396/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16639097196623&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fmetro.co.uk%2F2021%2F05%2F23%2Frussian-submarines-are-constantly-circling-britains-entire-coastline-14630396%2F

In January 2022, Russia held a 140+ ship naval exercise off the coast of Ireland, but then a number of ships and nuclear subs were reported to British Parliament to be loitering all the way around Britain, coastal France, and “in the pocket” between Germany, Belgium, Poland, and Norway, Sweden, Finland, and the Baltics.

Simultaneously, Russia held a 144 ship and sub exercise stretching from coastal Oman and Gulf of Aden, to right up next to US Navy Base Camp Lemonnier, Djibouti. Just before reaching Lemonnier, China’s Navy joined the then joint exercise which went right up the Red Sea to one of Russia’s refurbished naval facilities opposite Yemen, where they have really been supplying weapons to the Houthi and Iranian backed Rebels attacking SA, with the goal of destroying Saudi and UAE energy lines to Israel and Europe.

Off and in since Bill Clinton, but steady under Obama, the up to 11 Russian nuclear subs, which are associated with the Russian nuclear battlecruiser “Peter the Great” (which calls the Venezuelan island of La Orchila home, routinely travel or loiter within approximately 1500 NM from “Peter the Great”. Sub locations are regular between Bermuda and Newfundland and Labrador, but also occasionally test Bill Clinton’s 12 NM territorial boundaries of the US East Coast. It happened under Clinton, and Obama multiple times, but over the past two years, these incidents are almost routine, and stretch from Texas to Maine, with the occasional stop in Cuba. There is also overlap utilizing the Chinese controlled Panama Canal, between Russia’s Pacific and Atlantic hybrid nuclear battle group’s.

There is a whole lot more, including a highly nuclear weaponized Kaliningrad, and Philippine area, but enough for now.

No one wants this, but nuclear blackmail, utilizing a known weak US fraud president, and utilizing fearful trembling populations, is obviously the new toy by a leftist fascist to move his border.


15 posted on 09/22/2022 10:45:56 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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The Russians, unlike Joe’s folks, will not tell you exactly what they plan to do.

Winter is coming and that’s prime Russian fighting weather.

I think Putin plans a massive push with experienced troops, with the 300,000 new draftees expected to hold the existing lines.

The Russians tend to be conservative. They might talk nuclear, but talk isn’t walk.


16 posted on 09/22/2022 11:00:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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They are built for tactical effect, not strategic effect. Strategic nuclear weapons, such as the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki [...]

Despite his attempts, the author does not make it absolutely clear what constitutes a "strategic" as opposed to "tactical" nuclear weapon.

The Uranium bomb dropped on Hiroshima and the Plutonium bomb dropped on Nagasaki both had explosive yields of approx. 12-15 kilotons - certainly not what would today be categorized as "strategic."

The author should clearly spell out the criteria for categorizing a nuclear device as "strategic" vs. "tactical." Is it the explosive yield, alone? Or does it depend upon the given use (e.g., on the battlefield vs. against cities)?

Regards,

18 posted on 09/22/2022 11:03:31 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Putin, Prigoshin, and Kadyriv all need to be taken out . Anyone within the Russian security apparatus that can do this, all on the same day , could go a long way to restoring Russia’s honor, prestige , as and influence in the world . If Russians just stand by , like Germans did in the ‘30s , they will eventually see their entire society, country, and culture destroyed . This should happen, the sooner the better . Enough of this stupid war already . Drop the war monger’s dicks in the dirt.


20 posted on 09/23/2022 1:17:12 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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From what we’ve seen of the Russian military this year, I bet their missiles would fail to launch or break up in flight. The warheads that did arrive anywhere near the intended target would probably be duds.


21 posted on 09/23/2022 2:25:53 AM PDT by Big Brother Go to Hell
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The power of tactical nuclear weapons (depending on the type) is less than 1 percent of the Hiroshima blast

I think this statement is highly questionable. The Hiroshima bomb's yield was between 12 and 15 kilotons. I don't think there is anything in the current US arsenal with a yield of 120 to 150 tons of TNT.

The smallest nuclear weapon the US ever built -- probably the smallest ever built, period -- was the Davy Crockett, with a yield of 10 tons. It was retired in 1971. The TADM ("tactical atomic demolition munition," the original "suitcase nuke") was retired in 1966. It had a yield of 500 tons, well over the 150 ton limit.

26 posted on 09/23/2022 5:32:15 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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Fairly decent analysis overall, but the potential attack on Romania is very fanciful indeed. First off, Ukrainian anti-ship missiles are too dispersed to be eliminated, and second how will Russians land in Romania, will they swim there?

The only real threat I see is to mass another invasion force in Belarus and open a second front aimed at Kiev to relieve pressure in the east. Lukashenko would have to agree, and it would risk Polish intervention.

So far Russia has been unable to train and equip adequately much smaller forces than the current mobilization. I do not see that changing. In fact, the chaotic initial mobilization of men haphazardly strongly suggests a complete lack of planning. Mobilization results will probably vary wildly from district to district, with way too many to transport, clothe, house and feed in some areas and way too few in others. Coordinating their movement to Ukraine will be a disaster. Even if Putin manages to transport 300k poorly trained troops to Ukraine, how will he feed them? Arm them? Make them sufficiently mobile to attack?

I suspect Russian generals know this. So if Putin's bluff fails this time, he's finished.

27 posted on 09/23/2022 6:51:41 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-BXPfRiCOw

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for September 21, 2022

- Referendums have been announced across Russian-held territory in Ukraine;

- If incorporated into the Russian Federation, Moscow could upgrade the special military operation significantly;

- The US Department of Defense, in a recent briefing, seems to acknowledge the limits of what aid it can provide Ukraine;

- Western analysts appear to agree that Ukraine’s offensives may have been a final gamble, exhausting their reserves and leaving them at the mercy of subsequent Russian escalations;

28 posted on 09/23/2022 8:07:06 AM PDT by Kazan
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