Posted on 09/22/2022 1:29:44 PM PDT by Drew68
When Ron DeSantis is consulting renowned experts about whether or not to run for president in 2024, the man he is most likely to listen to is President Chris Christie. Well, not literally listen. He’ll instead learn from the potential prezzy who ended up presiding in network green rooms instead of the White House because he declined to run when he had his big – well, everything about him is big – chance in 2012. The Gov will also look to the lessons of President Mario Cuomo. These two guys hesitated and missed their window, just like there are some folks – Mitt Romney, John Kerry, Felonia Milhouse von Pantsuit – who never actually had a window at all yet still tried to dive through one and ended up defenestrating themselves.
Remember a decade ago when we had Christiemania, when he was a breath of fresh air blowing away lib pieties after an improbable New Jersey governor win? And instead of striking while the presidential iron was hot, he failed to go for it, and now he will never be president of anything except maybe the International Society to Prevent Cardio. Mario Cuomo similarly blew it in the 80s. He was the Dem candidate who sped up the Dems’ heartbeats with his unapologetic defense of liberal values. He had his shot, and played Hamlet, and never became president. Today, he’s remembered only for being the father of two big creeps.
The 2024 cycle is undoubtedly Ron DeSantis’s moment. He won a first election that everyone expected him to lose as the governor of the Free State of Florida. He will win a crushing victory over secret lizard-person Charlie Crist this November. And he has set about owning the libs hard not merely by humiliating them for their hypocrisy with awesome moves like sending illegals to Martha’s Vineyard but with substantive conservative policies that are sucking the remaining productive people out of hellscapes like New York and California.
He has governed like a conservative, and he has the receipts. Florida works. Its kids went back to school while blue state bosses were still sacrificing their own kids’ futures to the garbage teacher unions. He is fighting wokeness and its poisonous CRT ideology. He treats the media like what it is – a pack of flunkies. And when he picks fights, he wins them. The base loves him. The polls bode well, to the extent polls are not mere onanism.
If Donald Trump was not still in the picture, he would be the unquestioned frontrunner. But Donald Trump is in the picture.
And he has every right to be. Let’s cut the baloney the regime media keeps serving up. This was a great president who made huge substantive improvements to the country. By defeating Bill Clinton’s wizened baby oven – maybe – Trump literally saved the Constitution. And he would have done even more but for an indisputably questionable election and the unprecedented, fully-fascist attacks of the Establishment and their media and bureaucratic allies.
There are good reasons for Trump to run, and good reasons for him not to, and none of them matter because the decision is Trump’s. The smart money says he will go for it.
So, does Ron DeSantis step up to the 800-pound Gorilla Channel fan for a clash of the titans?
There are rumors that he has promised not to run if Trump does. Do not believe them. There is wishcasting to the effect that he would take the veep slot. It won’t happen.
The fact is that this is DeSantis’s time to score the Big Enchilada.
He is never going to be better positioned than right after his smashing reelection victory. He will have the momentum, he will have the excitement, and he will have the bully pulpit as governor of America’s most vibrant state.
He’s young (44) and he could wait, in theory. But why? Youth is part of his sell, and that applies both to the relatively youthful Trump and especially to crusty Grampa Badfinger should he run again (which he seems to want to do). And after getting the nomination, some Democrat is going to have to spend the campaign explaining how inflation, foreign defeat, and an open border are actually good things. With potential competition like Crusty, Kamala, or that supply chain superhero/scourge of “racist roads” Buttigieg, DeSantis would have to try to lose.
But most of all, he has to consider the fact that things can only go downhill for him from here. An economic downturn. A hurricane the regime media will blame on his personal carbon footprint. A terrible heath crisis (thankfully, his wife recently beat cancer and is back by his side). It could be anything. And it could change everything. Chance is a fickle and cruel dominatrix, just the way the Dispatch guys like ‘em.
The problem with being on top is that there is nowhere to go but down. That’s the position Ron DeSantis would find himself looking at in 2028.
Sure, Trump has the poll numbers right now, but right now the 2024 race is a hypothetical. Republicans generally like Trump, except for the Never Trump sissies no one cares about anyway. But the midterm flogging of the Dems is not even complete and no one being polled is thinking deeply about 2024 yet.
“Who do I like? Haven’t given it much thought. Trump, I guess. Now stop calling me during supper.”
But soon, they will have to think about it. They will have to start weighing the alternatives. The GOP base loves only one thing more than Donald Trump, and that’s winning. Ron DeSantis is a proven winner. Donald Trump has the entire axis of evil gunning for him. The GOP could very well offer The Donald a gold watch and a handshake once they think it over.
Or not.
But one thing is undeniable. Ron DeSantis is the best positioned to beat Trump of any Republican who might run. And, unlike Trump, he has no firm ceiling for votes in the general. If Trump wins it will be a squeaker – it’s just a function of how many losers hate him. DeSantis has no such baggage.
And DeSantis knows all this. He’s not dumb, and neither is Trump, who sees the governor of New Alligatoria as his only real competition. The libs are dumb, but even they see it. That’s why we are already getting the inevitable “Trump is literally Hitler, but DeSantis is literally Hitler²” articles and tweets.
The stars have aligned. All the pieces fit. The time is now. Ron DeSantis really has no choice but to run if he ever wants to be president – he will never have a better chance. Just ask ex-President Christie.
It’s leftist media that pushes the notion of DeSantis 2024, that’s what, and not the man himself. Schlichter is reiterating their narrative.
I won’t vote for Desantis if he primaries Trump. I will sit it out or write in Trump.
Trump has already bragged about DeSantis, saying he taught him everything. I don’t know how DeSantis would be on foreign policy, I would like a Trump/DeSantis ticket, but we need a strong man in Florida too.
I see it that way. Sure he will have a 2 year gap in 2026 but that’s campaign time.
That’s funny. You sound like President Trump is off in lala land waiting to be crowned rather than in the trenches fighting for other republican candidates and continuing to make the case that he is our leader. He is doing rallies weekly, drawing tens of thousands, committing to his path if re-elected, committing to deal with the injustices done to our armed forces, to our citizens to the Jan 6th targeted innocents.
Where do you dream up this stuff?
So brain dead Joe will beat (steal it) Trump? LOL. You are so worng it is almost funny....
It’s all set up. The skids are greased. Desantis walks into the WH in ‘28 no heavy lifting needed.
I am tired of all the drama too. I also know that anyone else who isn’t a major RATlike RINO running would be treated the very same as Trump. The leftists are already attacking and suing DeSantis.
This is what the left does. Constant attacks and constant smears over any opposition.
The stakes are too high and they aren’t going to play nice just because a candidate isn’t Trump.
Why do so many blame the guy who has been treated so terribly by the left in this country for the way he has been treated. Did Trump ever make any speeches to the nation like Biden’s nazi speech? A speech that encouraged hatred and violence toward political opponents?
Trump made mistakes, all leaders do. The fact he was attacked from day one was because he wasn’t an entitled one approved by the deep state. And for that, he had to pay for getting in their way.
When he said he was all that was standing between them and their horrid plans for us, he was spot on.
DeSantis would be well advised to NEVER listen to Chris Christie.
Christie can never get the Oval Office on his own.
He can ONLY ride some very strong coat tails.
What he isn't doing is spending any money. Trump is sitting on over $150 million in fundraising and he hasn't spent a dime of it getting his handpicked people elected.
Blake Masters is begging for money. Thiel cut him off. McConnell cut him off. Where's Trump?
Two steps:
1. Convince people that DeSantis must be the nominee now, rather than Trump;
then
2. Then redirect support for DeSantis to a great blue RINO.
A guy who has been around a long long time
Right now DeSantis is making a better case. Trump may be our first love but we are going to marry DeSantis in 2024.
Trump did a lot for us. So I am grateful for that. But is it possible for him to win in 2024? I don't see it. The election will be another repeat of 2020.
Not literally listen, as Schlichter wrote, but rather observe what happened to these men when they passed on their best chance to run.
I think the RNC told Trump they’d only throw their support behind him if he picked someone “sensible” (AKA Deep State) as his VP to keep him in line. Pretty sure Pence was on the short list.
Whatever Gov. DeSantis's presidential plans are, he hopefully understands that most so-called federal domestic policy is based on stolen state powers, the states having vastly more 10th Amendment powers to serve the people when compared with the relatively few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the feds.
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"From the accepted doctrine that the Unite d States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the feds.
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
In other words, regardless what the very corrupt media wants everybody to think about the Oval Office's powers, the Oval Office is not the highest office in the land in peacetime imo.
"The true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best, that the States are independent as to everything within themselves, and united as to everything respecting foreign nations." --Thomas Jefferson to Gideon Granger, 1800.
Consider that Justice Louis Brandeis had seemingly reflected on Bingham's words (above) when Brandeis volunteered his "laboratories of democracy" metaphor to emphasize the unique power of the states to serve the people, ultimately depending on the kind of state social spending programs that the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.
"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.
The problem is that Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters must first support Trump-endorsed MAGA candidates for state government offices in putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes according to the excerpt from Gibbons v. Ogden above.
Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped, each state will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues (imo) that can be used to increase teacher salaries, also salaries of police and fire departments for starters.
Let's also include new state funding for infrastructure maintenance in that list. Undoubtedly many other state social spending programs as well to replace former unconstitutional federal social spending programs.
Additionally, no more forced compliance with Democratic politically correct and unconstitutional federal gender-related civil rights protections in order for school kids to eat likewise unconstitutional federal lunches paid for with stolen state revenues for example.
The next step in putting the country back on its constitutional foundations is for Republican and Democratic Trump supporters to vote Republican in November 2022.
Corrections, insights welcome.
Regrettably you are correct.
The site won’t survive unless it attracts new folks, especially younger ones.
Right now boomers are the financial resource keeping things afloat but as we well know that won’t continue forever. And you can tell from the reaction of the olders to anything the least bit unorthodox they don’t like or welcome any ideas that don’t fit their idea of a FR poster.
The reality is that FR used to have many real interesting and provocative folks, most whom have moved on. There are many reasons for this which will be saved for another day. But you are absolutely correct in your analysis.
I ignore the YOU NOOB comments. Those are merely unperceptive folks.
You have to know a little html to use this site. Yeah. Not user friendly for young folks. But that's a good thing. We are off the radar. Which is where we want to be.
You are a great micromanager. It’s a shame you aren’t running the show.
Have you looked at some of the loser moves Blake Masters has made lately. In August, Masters changed his campaign site to remove references to anti-abortion. He is covering up election theft. When you try and be everything to everyone you fail & no amount of $ will fix the candidate behaving like a windsock.
Kemp won his primary race 73 to 21. And you’re suggesting he stole it?
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