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Bosch Warns Electric Vehicle Industry over Reliance on Battery Cells
breitbart.com ^ | 9/19/2022 | Lucas Nolan

Posted on 09/20/2022 10:48:32 AM PDT by rktman

The head of mobility services for German electronics giant Robert Bosch GmbH has warned the electric vehicle industry of the reliance on battery cells and possible shortages in the future.

Bloomberg reports that Markus Heyn, the head of mobility services for Bosch, has warned the electric vehicle industry over its overreliance on a single fuel source — battery cells — as Europe’s energy crisis worsens.

Heyn, who’s also a board member of the auto parts giant, told the Monday edition of the Stuttgarter Zeitung: “We’re currently seeing the consequences of the gas shortage for Germany and Europe because we prepared too few alternatives. In the automotive industry, we should use this occasion to ask ourselves what we can do if there should ever be too few battery cells.”

He said in that case, “everyone would certainly like to see an alternative to battery power. But this will only exist if we have prepared it in good time.” Heyn said that alternatives that should be considered include fuel cells using hydrogen and oxygen to power electric motors. He further added that the infrastructure being developed for long-haul trucks is well-suited as a “backbone for supplying passenger cars.”

Batteries have consistently been a major cost for drivers of electric vehicles as replacements and repairs can be extremely expensive.

Breitbart News recently reported on a Canadian Tesla owner who was locked out of his car unless he paid $26,000 for a new battery.

“I’ll never buy another Tesla again,” he said. “That’s the long way of me saying stay the (expletive) away from Teslas. They’re brutal cars, brutal manufacturing, and even worse, they’re a 10-year-old company.”

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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It’s with human intervention that coal seam fires have really caught on, so to speak, in the past century. Mining exposes coal to oxygen, and coal, as we know, burns very, very easily. With plenty of fuel and oxygen, a small spark can ignite a blaze that grows to cover miles and miles.

https://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-oldest-underground-fire-has-been-burning-fo-1539049759


81 posted on 09/20/2022 3:34:38 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: Clay Moore

About how much does the new electric Hummer pickup weigh?

A. 10,000 lbs


82 posted on 09/20/2022 3:38:02 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: Boogieman

“I could care less whether you are impressed.”

LOL! The phrase is:

I couldn’t care less whether you are impressed.


83 posted on 09/20/2022 3:46:57 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: cgbg

“and there are always a couple of Freepers peddling the lemons and pretending it is lemonade.”

Lemonade is made from lemons.


84 posted on 09/20/2022 3:49:28 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have even heard of fuel cells that use gasoline and even urea to power the vehicle.

Sounds like a piss poor alternative to me.

85 posted on 09/20/2022 4:05:20 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger

Urine trouble for saying that.


86 posted on 09/20/2022 4:10:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Urine trouble for saying that.

You're right.

True story: Griffiti over a men's room urinal during Reagan's first term: "Trickle Down, Bro'"

87 posted on 09/20/2022 4:19:53 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
How many people use their vehicle 8 hours a day?

Uber, taxi drivers. Often times more than 8 hours a day.

88 posted on 09/20/2022 4:35:24 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also, I know an EV battery has only about 25% of normal range in cold weather.

Fuel cells are problematic in both cold weather and hot weather. A by-product of operating fuel cells is production of water, which can freeze and clog or destroy components. If the operating temperature is high, the water can evaporate and destroy the membrane separating anode and cathode, causing failure. Fuel cells are more problematic than EV batteries. Gasoline is a far better alternative than fuel cell use in extreme weather.

89 posted on 09/20/2022 4:56:16 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: TexasGator

Some fun reading

https://www.tesla-fire.com/


90 posted on 09/20/2022 5:15:03 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
"Some fun reading"

Car hits tree:

Driver dies:


91 posted on 09/20/2022 5:18:54 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

“Oak tree you’re in my way!”


92 posted on 09/20/2022 5:19:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: roadcat

“Uber, taxi drivers. Often times more than 8 hours a day.”


Uber Is Expanding EV Rides, Commits to an EV-Only Fleet by 2030

https://news.yahoo.com/uber-expanding-ev-rides-commits-182600880.html


93 posted on 09/20/2022 5:22:32 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: roadcat

Uber, taxi drivers. Often times more than 8 hours a day.


How A Taxi Fleet Successfully Switched To EVs

https://www.chargedfleet.com/10137876/how-a-taxi-service-successfully-switched-to-evs


94 posted on 09/20/2022 5:25:30 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: roadcat
"Uber, taxi drivers. Often times more than 8 hours a day."

Uber battery swap station


95 posted on 09/20/2022 5:31:26 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

I think the big problem with battery swaps is verifying the quality of both the one being off-loaded and the one on-loaded. Imagine being given a $20k pooped out battery and fighting them to take it back.


96 posted on 09/20/2022 5:34:10 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: nascarnation

“I think the big problem with battery swaps is verifying the quality of both the one being off-loaded and the one on-loaded. Imagine being given a $20k pooped out battery and fighting them to take it back.”

Software gives you the condition of the battery. You won’t get a pooped out battery.


97 posted on 09/20/2022 5:46:57 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: roadcat

Well, I guess I am wrong. The fuel cells that I have read about was on a submarine where the temperature is tightly controlled.


98 posted on 09/20/2022 5:51:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Also, I know an EV battery has only about 25% of normal range in cold weather.”


A more recent study conducted in Norway, however, showed that the average cold weather range loss for 20 popular EVs was only about 18.5%. This figure is far closer to the EPA-estimated 15% efficiency loss of gas-powered cars.

https://www.evconnect.com/blog/electric-cars-in-cold-weather


99 posted on 09/20/2022 5:54:25 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: EVO X

“What happens if you are traveling up the grapevine and traffic is halted for hours because of a snow storm?”

You run out of gas?


100 posted on 09/20/2022 5:56:18 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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