Posted on 09/19/2022 11:37:44 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods
Tesla has been slapped with a class-action lawsuit.
The suit claims the electric car company has misled the public regarding its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving technology.
The law firm filing the suit issued a news release on Wednesday stating that many customers paid thousands of dollars for the software believing that it would make their vehicles fully autonomous.
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However, “Tesla has yet to produce anything even remotely approaching a fully self-driving car,” said Briggs Matsko, the suit’s named plaintiff, according to Reuters.
“Since at least 2016, Tesla has misleadingly and deceptively marketed its supposed autopilot and full self-driving technology as either already fully functional or just around the corner,” the news release said.
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Caveat Emptor..............................
Plus, they call those features "driver assist" instead of "self driving" as a legal way of making sure we know that it's not expected to fully drive itself -- just assist us if we're about to drift out of lane or whatever. I found myself fighting it when I'd intentionally drift to do things like avoid potholes or passing a wide load.
“many customers paid thousands of dollars for the software believing that it would make their vehicles fully autonomous.”
LOL
As a software engineer for over 30 years I never believed a word of that crap.
AI SchmAI. You can’t digitize all the paint and signs on the road. Some stuff is going to get missed. Running into parked cars for gods sake.
They’ve digitized automobiles into NAG WAGONS.
Year after year video of Elong lying about autonomous driving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI
Many customers Were/Are STUPID.
Fine to turn off lane assist, but I wouldn’t shut off the automatic braking. My car has saved me from 2 accidents in the last 5 years with that feature.
It's what they wanted to believe. They will not find anywhere that Tesla told them that.
In fact Tesla says you should be ready to take the wheel at any moment.
I saw a video once where some young dude tied a ankle weight to the steering wheel then took a 2 hour nap in the back seat while cruising down the highway.
Our 2019 Honda Passport has that crap. On windy roads it thinks oncoming cars are in my lane, tells me BRAKE. Same thing when someone passes on the highway when they switch lanes, even steps on the brakes sometimes. This is with the lane mitigation turned off because we drive a lot of winding 2 lane highways and it shakes the wheel all the time. I always drift slightly right when cars are approaching head-on and it doesn’t like that.
Same type of folks who thought their solar panels would power their house when the grid goes down.
So I just have it beep to warn me. The only time it auto-brakes for me is when I have it on cruise control (keeping a set distance between me and the car in front of me).
I love the “machine learning” approach: hey there’s a woman crossing the street, let’s stop. Hey there’s a bicyclist riding across the street, let’s stop. Hey there’s something I don’t recognize (woman pushing bike). Probably just leaves or a shadow or something. Ignore.
This is no surprise to me. Several years ago I input an address into my GPS which would take me from my home address to an unfamiliar destination. I was quite surprised when it directed me to turn right at a familiar intersection that I knew should have been a left hand turn. The right turn would have driven me into the ocean!
Tesla is hardly alone in the oversell of self driving...
Been telling people for along time, self driving is DECADES asay... at least general case, drive anywhere self driving.
Its an 80/20 to 90/10 problem.. 80-90% of the effort will be in the last 10-20% of the problem.. the gross and complete oversell of self driving by Uber and other snake oil salesman was just a con.
Best case scenrio for general case self driving is the elderly or those with medical issues that prevent them from driving. Those folks are willing to accept a vehicle that may have to drive slowly and stop frequently because it’s confused about what it’s “seeing”.. to have the autonomy and independence such a technology will provide. If it takes them an hour to travel what would take other folks in a normal car 15 minutes to travel they will make that trade off to be or remain independent.
However, the case that self driving cars are anywhere near the general case use at normal speed and conditions in an urban environment is just a flat out lie, and has been.
I hope they get it all working before i am old so I can maintain my independence, but the idea we are all going to read our phones or whatnot as our cars drive us to and from places is DECADES away yet.
“Many customers Were/Are STUPID.”
... or are just trying to make a quick buck off a class-action lawsuit.
With the Honda Passport, can you not turn off those features?
“Tesla has yet to produce anything even remotely approaching a fully self-driving car,”
The vast majority of people do not want self-driving cars any time soon.
Some time in the future it will happen - probably first with mass transit rail systems which are designed to stay on their tracks. Airline pilots use autopilot features, but there is always a human watching and ready to take over.
Hundreds of thousands of cars driving themselves around? In the distant future perhaps - but doing it any time soon would be total madness.
The fact that it is not happening will be seen as good news by most people.
Everything except the braking due to cruise control and false braking signal thing. Unless the highway is pretty empty it’s too annoying to use as a result.
Lane mitigation off makes it driveable at least.
This is one reason I’ll never sell my 2008 Frontier. You can drive without being hounded.
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