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To: rktman
An Article V Convention of States is NOT a "Constitutional Convention."

It's only power is to propose Constitutional Amendments which must be ratified in the ordinary Constitutional manner.


3 posted on 09/18/2022 9:50:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s an article that contradicts your statement, who is right I’m not sure.

This article indicates that 34 States on their own could call a Constitutional Convention and basically set up their own rules and agenda.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/states-likely-could-not-control-constitutional-convention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or

The only Constitutional Convention ever held was in 1787 when the Bill of Rights were approved and in that conventional amendments were approved by the rules setup by the convention.


8 posted on 09/18/2022 9:58:55 AM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
An Article V Convention of States is NOT a "Constitutional Convention."

The term is being used interchangeably.

25 posted on 09/18/2022 10:27:04 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Leading to an actual CC. I don’t trust them even this early. 😎✌


35 posted on 09/18/2022 10:53:44 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This.👌


47 posted on 09/18/2022 11:33:04 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is the usual boilerplate I append to these threads to explain the Article V process. I've had this prose vetted by a retired professor of constitutional law.

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THE ARTICLE V AMENDATORY PROCESS

The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps:

  1. Proposal;
  2. Direction;
  3. Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an amendments convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, except that a convention is limited to proposing amendments specified in the application and there is no such limit on Congress.

Direction:

Once Congress, or an amendments convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The state ratifying convention method has only been used once: to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition. A similar procedure was used to ratify the Constitution itself.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three fourths of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and two implicitly forbidden subjects.

Explicitly forbidden:

  1. No amendment may be added to the Constitution concerning the slave trade or direct taxes until 1808. We’re well past that deadline.
  2. No amendment may be added to the Constitution to change the principle of equal representation in the Senate unless every state deprived of that right approves. If California wants five senators, every state must have five senators. To permit violation of this principle, every state would have to ratify the amendment, not just three fourths.

Implicitly forbidden:

  1. The Constitution of 1787 may not be abrogated and replaced with a new document. Article V only authorizes “a convention for proposing amendments to this Constitution;” so the Constitution of 1787 is locked in place.
  2. A convention for proposing amendments is limited to the topics authorized by state applications.

Reference work:

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

51 posted on 09/18/2022 11:42:09 AM PDT by Publius
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