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State of the EU address: 'Putin will fail and Europe will prevail'
dw.com ^ | September 14, 2022 | Ella Joyner

Posted on 09/14/2022 10:46:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Berlin_Freeper

Albanians called on big brother Nato to be their airforce. I see Russians in Ukraine calling on big brother Russia to be their airforce. Is there something special about Albanian muslims that you would care to enlighten about


81 posted on 09/15/2022 12:44:29 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What kind of amazing leader will the globalists appoint in Russia. Think about the ramifications of that. Biden “leaked” the truth when he said the war was about Russian regime change
Do you think the globalist leader, who has already been selected will act in our interest? Putin is a bad man, but I guarantee they will appoint someone exponentially worse.
Bidens senility leaks are being used to move things u er left


82 posted on 09/15/2022 12:44:44 AM PDT by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: papercliprippa

You don’t listen well, do you? Or understand how NATO works. Bite Me or Kambala or Blinken can say whatever they freaking like. B4 Pooty went all stupid, Germany or France or Spain would have torpedoed any move to add Ukraine to NATO. Yes, even the “least” member has the absolute right to do so under NATO rules.


83 posted on 09/15/2022 12:55:41 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I wonder what Uncle Sam would do if native Hawaiins and like minded Haole voted to declare independance. The U.S reluctantly respected the outcome. The majority of world nations also. The new Hawaii regime went all out to eradicate what they saw as American imperialism and colonising. Restructing English. Oppressing the non allied Haole. What would uncle Sam then do if T.V images showed yanks being bullied, beaten, killed. The drumbeat to invade would start up. All the crap about sovereign this and sovereign that would go out the window


84 posted on 09/15/2022 12:56:51 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Then what the hell was Russia doing in occupying Kharkiv Oblast with clear intention of staying? Kharkiv Oblast has not been “Russian” for a long time.


85 posted on 09/15/2022 1:05:03 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

If alleged mistreatment of Albanian muslims by Serbia served as the pretext for using military means against sovereign Serbia, I can’t ge5 why westerners who supported the Nato war, get their knickers in a twist if Russia is doing pretty much doing the same, ie supportibg what they see as oppressed Russians. And slicing up a sovereign country to do it. I guess muslims are higher up the pecking order in Europe


86 posted on 09/15/2022 1:08:05 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Paul R.

Probably a little bit of land grab buffering. I don’t think russians are anymore or less opportunistic than other powers.


87 posted on 09/15/2022 1:10:42 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Perhaps the Russians in Ukraine should have called on Nato to help them seperate from Ukraine.


88 posted on 09/15/2022 1:13:47 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wake me up when the fat lady starts warming up for her solo.

This back and forth bickering about who is the bad guy is making me dizzy. It seems to me this is a long standing issue between these two countries. Long history.

I just want to see it over with so both sides can chill and move on. That’s what I’m rooting for.


89 posted on 09/15/2022 1:15:47 AM PDT by Boomer ( What's the difference between Nazi Germany in 1932 and the USA in 2022? 5k miles and 90 years.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Everyone allied against Russia has in total, at least 7 times the population, over 30 times the GDP, and 10 times the military spending - after Russia all but doubled its spending.

Trade works both ways. Russia needs what is buys with oil money to run its economy and grow food too. Russia has stopped reporting some economic indicators.

Sanctions and energy will cause pain in the short term. Everyone knows that. Now can anyone please explain how Russia comes out ahead in the long run?

90 posted on 09/15/2022 1:20:24 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: MalPearce
(as they were provoking Euromaidan as much if not more than the West was)

Ah, an important point, blissfully ignored by too many...

I concluded Poroshenko was corrupt, but, he came back early on to Kyiv to lead a street brigade when he could have just stayed in Poland. He prolly figures it's worth a pardon - might be right. Pretty ballsy, in any event.

Not too much to argue with in the rest of your post. However, I do think Putin's desire to eliminate Ukraine as an up and coming competitor with EU help and curbing of corruption, and lots of recently found energy resources, plays into his move.

91 posted on 09/15/2022 1:44:54 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Boy, are you naïve.


92 posted on 09/15/2022 1:48:08 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Boomer

In some respects, this is literally a clash of civilizations: Most Ukrainians (esp. those under 50) want to go with the West, even if it is flawed. The West would love to cooperate and integrate Ukraine’s resources (all the more, now that Russia’s behavior is clear.) Countries like Poland have been pretty successful — Russia cannot have a Poland, with Ukraine’s resources, on it’s border. Russia has the old Asian “conquest and control” mindset still ingrained.

Hoping for a quick end to such clashes, unless one side is severely defeated, is likely fruitless. Sad to say.


93 posted on 09/15/2022 2:20:33 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The eu will lose as russia sells all the oil it needs to the rest of the world including china but mot to the eu states.

Game over eu.


94 posted on 09/15/2022 3:33:32 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
German economy minister: Ukraine says it needs 350 billion dollar for reconstruction
95 posted on 09/15/2022 3:36:46 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well,it’s not racism if it’sagainst Germans...same old, same old.

An least Desert Rhino doesn’t go on about “human rights” or some other leftwing, clandestine racist pabulum like that.


96 posted on 09/15/2022 3:57:21 AM PDT by Menes
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No offense intended :-), but so many times in history have alliances changed after they had “outlived” their usefulness to the contracting parties?

Quite a few times. :-)


97 posted on 09/15/2022 4:02:34 AM PDT by Menes
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To: Berlin_Freeper

‘Germany fears a wave of insolvencies’
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-fears-a-wave-of-insolvencies/a-63059812

“Prices for gas and electricity are exploding, driving companies into bankruptcy. . . .Bread, rolls, cakes and cupcakes — that’s what the Plaz Bakery is famous for. . .

But right now, Plaz no longer knows whether he can stay in business. At the end of August, he received mail from his gas supplier. Instead of the previous €721 ($719) per month, he will now have to pay €2,588 for heating and hot water from October 1, 2022. That doesn’t even include the costs for the baking oven. Plaz has a gas contract that secures delivery at the old price until the end of the year.

But if the gas prices continue to rise, the baker may well be looking at an annual gas bill of €42,000 for the oven alone, up from currently €12,000.”


98 posted on 09/15/2022 4:03:14 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Long Jon No Silver
I'm sure this is merely a coincidence.


99 posted on 09/15/2022 4:05:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Even if Berlin Freeper were a German, he could never be as demented as you appear to be. Very sorry.


100 posted on 09/15/2022 4:08:18 AM PDT by Menes
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