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Russian elite airborne regiment was completely wiped out in recent days
https://www.defenceview.in ^ | September 14, 2022 | Ankit Verma

Posted on 09/14/2022 8:03:12 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Jeff Chandler

Everyone is lying, except you?


41 posted on 09/14/2022 10:10:38 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53
Everyone is lying, except you?

I'm talking about media reports, and anyone who does not begin with a default position that the media are lying, is a fool.

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
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In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
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That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.”

― Michael Crichton

42 posted on 09/14/2022 10:14:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Midwesterner53

Your reply sounds like it came from Rachel Maddow, liberal.

She has said similar things with her passing so much off as “Russian propaganda” for years now.

You belong on MSNBC or working for some Biden government agency.


43 posted on 09/14/2022 10:22:00 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

so many trolls with propaganda
so little time


44 posted on 09/14/2022 10:22:04 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: canuck_conservative

All you have is name calling and AD Homs, Biden supporter, just like all the others here with no substantive retort and deflecting from Biden’s war causing a mess as it all goes back to him and Obama supporting a coup in 2014 in Ukraine of a legally elected president there.

Learn to be and talk like a conservative and provide something to at least try to back up your nonsense or you are a liar.


45 posted on 09/14/2022 10:30:53 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Petrosius; Kazan
And the source for this intel is?

Kazan received his talking points for today from Moscow Central. Don't ask questions!

46 posted on 09/14/2022 11:04:39 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Its All Over Except ...; Fred Nerks

The justification for this by neocons, if true, would be “Putin mean, Russia bad” akin to Clinton saying “Slobo mean, Serbia bad” or Obama saying “Gaddafi mean, Libya bad” to justify NATO involvement in those countries, which was against their defensive charter they attacking offensively and especially so since neither Serbia nor Libya attacked a NATO member.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is a more than astute Observation. I will go a little further.The Obama grift in Liya to get NATO to act as a neo colonial power was done on behalf of brown and black people everywhere.ARAB SPRING! NATO is actually in deep trouble now because of this fact.The Russians realized that NATO is not defensive long ago.

NATO gratuitously destroyed the Great Man Made River which was greening the Libyan Southern desert, called by many , the 8th wonder of the world. It was an act of clear malice and infamy. Thousands starved and died of thirst. But the MSM reports? crickets. Hillary justified the attack on Libya by Gadaffi keeping an all female praetorian guard, all of whom were attending University in the face of traditional Muslim opposition to educated females, but we won’t mention that , eh?.Gadaffi was bringing Libya into the modern world and was an ally of the USA.Obama hated Gadaffi because Gadaffi whacked the Muslom Brothergood and kept then out of Central Africa and Egypt but alas, now we have Boko Haram and others because of Obama, exactly the result that OBUNGO wanted.

Obama and Hillary Clinton destroyed NATO. NATO is a dead man walking and barely knows it.Its history of failure in Serbia,Libya and now in Ukraine will lead to its disarray and destruction. Biden is assuring that outcome, and the NWO seeks to replace NATO following instead of traditional defence, rather the policies of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Council and its totalitarian iperatiives, including draconian envoronmental taxation and state sponsored euthanasia.

NATO as it has been historically is finished.


47 posted on 09/14/2022 11:05:30 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Liked that post a lot, Jeff.


48 posted on 09/14/2022 11:17:50 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Candor7

By the time NATO revealed itself, not so much as a defensive alliance as an offensive one, Serbian civilians found themselves the target of a military offensive ostensibly to punish them for their government’s ruthless policies in Kosovo. Never mind the fact that there was a secessionist movement on home soil also dedicated to extreme violence...

The bombings by NATO started on March 24, 1999, and lasted for 78 days. 2,300 missiles and 14,000 bombs were used on as many as 990 targets across Serbia, killing over 2,000 civilians. Vital infrastructure was crippled and not so vital military targets hit. Residents were also targets of Depleted Uranium munitions, a legacy that continues to menace survivors. In the talk about ethnic cleansing, replete in conversations about what Serb authorities were doing to Albanians, some 200 thousand ethnic Serbs were forced to leave Kosovo.

https://intpolicydigest.org/bombs-failed-nato-serbia-15-years/


49 posted on 09/14/2022 11:21:11 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I think NATO is devolving. President Trump tried to reighn them in by making them pay more for their own defense.But post Trump they spent more money on Klaus Schwabs NWO policies, which are the ruination of traditional NATO roles.

NATO is being ground down by Russia, and interesting that the news of recent Ukrainian advances against Russia are not being reproted in Israel as any great success. NATO is reduced to pumping up any positive news from the Ukrainian effort. Essentially Ukraine is nothing but a huge money laundering operation for the left in America and for the Schwabers of Europe.


50 posted on 09/14/2022 11:36:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

” large number of heavy weapons have fallen into the hands of the Ukrainian army, and there are likely to be thousands of them, including advanced T-90M main battle tanks and 2S19M2 self-propelled artillery units...”

That’s one way to solve an artillery shortage, just get the enemy to run away and capture theirs.


51 posted on 09/14/2022 12:16:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FreshPrince
My point is, there is good guys and gals in Ukraine. They are the citizens of Ukraine who dont want foreign armies on their soil.

Except for the actual Nazi's that were in the Azov battalion and the massacres by the Ukes in the Donbas area. Both sides are dirty.

52 posted on 09/14/2022 1:27:35 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Kremlin lies.

The invaders are the dirty ones.


53 posted on 09/14/2022 4:21:05 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince
Kremlin lies.

The Nazi battalion was not a lie. The oppression and downright atrocities in the Donbass are not a lie.

54 posted on 09/15/2022 7:28:40 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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