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Russian nationalists rage after stunning setback in Ukraine
Reuters ^ | September 11, 2022 | Guy Faulconbridge and Catherine Evans

Posted on 09/11/2022 11:38:07 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: lodi90

So you support overthrowing democracies? Congratulations! Now you have Biden. Providence delivers poetic Justice whether we acknowledge it or not.


141 posted on 09/11/2022 7:39:15 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: tlozo

A substantial bloc of Ukrainians who were uncertain about joining the EU swung to a more positive view after Russia upped the ante in 2014. Then by engaging in a wide scale invasion and destroying cities like Mariupol, Russia cemented those views and added more. Check out the refugee (who fled through RUSSIA, btw) at 2:00 in this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bWRdQNvk_w

“Estonian Christians Open Arms to Ukraine’s Refugees: ‘I Doubt We’ll Have Heat This Winter”

(I suppose CBN will now be attacked here as a Deep State operative...)


142 posted on 09/11/2022 7:41:00 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: tlozo
States cannot secede.

Why should states whose constitutions are overthrown in Revolutions be subject to Revolutionaries?
143 posted on 09/11/2022 7:46:16 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Ignorance such as actually listening to Foreign Ministers and higher making public statements opposing NATO membership for Ukraine? Like France? Polls in some NATO countries were substantially against it, too, if you have any unslanted memory whatsoever.


144 posted on 09/11/2022 7:56:09 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You talk really tough. Just Like Biden’s sodomites.

So sorry. Did I hurt the widdle Putin fluffer’s feelings? If it weren’t for non sequiturs, you’d have nothing to say.

145 posted on 09/11/2022 8:05:24 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Timber Rattler; lodi90; volunbeer; PIF; Monterrosa-24; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...

How many English-speaking people lived in America in 1776. I certainly did not stop my ancestors from winning the Revolution. One problem in this country is not enough people speak foreign languages. My oldest son studied Russian, one of his sons took the 11 month Arabic course in Monterrey, My other son speaks Spanish, and so do I. Which is a good thing since our schools do such a lousy job of preparing students for the building trades and my son has a small construction business, and I am renovating several houses.

Speaking a second language can be useful, but it does not make you a member of that particular country. Although it can help you understand that country better. It appears that a lot of Russian speaking Ukranians understand Russia is a dictatorship, and they want no part of it.


146 posted on 09/11/2022 9:39:26 PM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion .)
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To: cranked; PIF; marcusmaximus; dennisw; Timber Rattler; SpeedyInTexas; All

You might know that a Pooty Pal would post a link targeting Ukrainian police from the Russian media source RT.


147 posted on 09/11/2022 9:54:21 PM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion .)
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To: FreshPrince; All

And Darth Vader disappeared severl months ago.


148 posted on 09/11/2022 10:13:07 PM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion .)
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To: Prince of Space

The Russians spend the big bucks on propaganda. They stage lots of vids. My wife is one of those Russian speakers from the Donbas and she like her family and most of her Donbas friends are patriotic Ukrainians. She grew up with the old Soviet propaganda and as a former Lenin Pioneer easily recognizes the same Russian-produced lies.


149 posted on 09/11/2022 10:49:57 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Why should states whose constitutions are overthrown in Revolutions be subject to Revolutionaries?

Stop making up crap. Ukraine has the same constitution.

150 posted on 09/12/2022 3:11:49 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

No one is making up crap. What do you think the Euromaiden Revolution was?


151 posted on 09/12/2022 5:21:05 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
No one is making up crap. What do you think the Euromaiden Revolution was?

It was throwing out a would be(look up Ukrainian dictatorship laws) dictator Yanukovitch, who was elected by promising to join the EU, and then right after election tried to join the CIS

Ukraine’s Yanukovich enacts ‘dictatorship’ laws

https://www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/ukraine-s-yanukovich-enacts-dictatorship-laws/

152 posted on 09/12/2022 5:32:38 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: grey_whiskers

No, your analogy is fallacious.

The reports to which I refer are international and not restricted to the severely biased American media. The various different international sources are not Democrat Machine controlled propaganda outlets

I do not read or view American media for what is international news


153 posted on 09/12/2022 5:58:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: tlozo
Tough anti-protest laws hastily passed by the Ukrainian parliament last week were enacted today (21 January) with their publication in the official journal, despite protestors and the EU calling for Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich to drop the legislation.

Parliament passed the laws. Why are you calling Yanukovich who represented 50%+ of Ukrainian voters, a dictator?
154 posted on 09/12/2022 8:03:40 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: cranked
Hey KazanMarmPrestonTruckmellowPGR88RinoCathiViking, sorry about the Kerch Bridge pothole issue.

I know you were contemplating speaking with your ольгинские тролли PSYOP boss, so you get some time off to jump the nearest "Draft Bus", or jump into the back of a police or OMAN vehicle so to get to the nearest draft tent, and to Crimea's warmer climate as it's so cold where you are, and so you could "bag & tag" some Ukie's.

Bummer I know.

Hey Kazan, it will be okay. I know the large low pressure system is past you now, so it should at least dry out a bit.

As well, I am sure the Russian hunting exhibition in Ukraine will continue for several more months. So you will have other opportunities.

About that threat that you had unleashed the "dogs" on me, and then sending me the beautiful music lyrics lettimg me know the end of my days was imminent, I was wondering if you might be a good Putinist Freeper and give me a "heads up" on when I can expect a visit from "the Cleaners", or "Mercader"?

I know we have had them in the US since at least the 1980's, and "assisting" certain US leftist politicians with pesky investigative types, so logistics shouldn't be too hard.

I am sure they are busy, but it would be nice to have at least a day or two notice.

Was also wondering how you keep such difficult 24/7 hours? I have a hard time staying awake for more than 3 days.

155 posted on 10/13/2022 6:57:44 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: cranked; All
Hey KazanMarmPrestonTruckmellowPGR88RinoCathiViking, sorry about the Kerch Bridge pothole issue.

I know you were contemplating speaking with your ольгинские тролли PSYOP boss, so you get some time off to jump the nearest "Draft Bus", or jump into the back of a police or OMAN vehicle so to get to the nearest draft tent, and to Crimea's warmer climate as it's so cold where you are, and so you could "bag & tag" some Ukie's.

Bummer I know.

Hey Kazan, it will be okay. I know the large low pressure system is past you now, so it should at least dry out a bit.

As well, I am sure the Russian hunting exhibition in Ukraine will continue for several more months. So you will have other opportunities.

About that threat that you had unleashed the "dogs" on me, and then sending me the beautiful music lyrics lettimg me know the end of my days was imminent, I was wondering if you might be a good Putinist Freeper and give me a "heads up" on when I can expect a visit from "the Cleaners", or "Mercader"?

I know we have had them in the US since at least the 1980's, and "assisting" certain US leftist politicians with pesky investigative types, so logistics shouldn't be too hard.

I am sure they are busy, but it would be nice to have at least a day or two notice.

Was also wondering how you keep such difficult 24/7 hours? I have a hard time staying awake for more than 3 days.

156 posted on 10/13/2022 7:00:37 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I know I hit you pretty hard a couple of weeks ago, and have felt bad for doing so... I have felt sorry about that since.

But you have been mislead regarding near CCCP related Ukrainian and modern Ukrainian history, and this includes Victor Yanukovich in a staggering way. His job in the 1990’s and 2000’s included quietly working with former Supreme Soviet actors, (who almost entirely became the infamous Oligarchs, and mega Oligarchs over Russia’s Military Industrial and Energy Complex’s we still often see today), to run interference and keep Ukrainian military, energy, and agricultural policies subordinate to these Kremlin actors, who were then, and are today almost entirely in control of the CIS.

It is true the financial and economic facade of the CIS is headquartered in Minsk, but the real power, and formal CIS military HQ is in Moscow, nearby the CCCP Red Army HQ, still used today.

As well, I had known of VY and his ties to Putin from the 1993 time frame, before the FSB murdered several key Ukrainian government representatives, and tried to assassinate two pro independent presidential candidates, who didn’t want Ukrainian men being forced to serve in the Russian controlled CIS military. But now one would listen. He was in the back pocket of Putin in a huge way, and flat out lied to the Ukrainian people as to how he would undermine Ukraine in favor of the Kremlin. You know what it’s like, to have first hand information which could save a lot of people, but the POTUS and leftist media are against you. This was in part me (as an American in Moscow), in the mid 1990’s.

I know you have baptized yourself in pro Russian everything.

Having spent nearly a decade in Moscow, (before going into the service), and having spent very considerable in Ukraine during the time frame in question, it is sickening to me the level of propaganda which has been swallowed whole by people across the West, who truly seem to have no idea. Worse, it is human nature to be so proud, as to block out everything which goes against a position publicly taken.

I don’t like to admit when I am wrong either. But I would rather know and espouse the truth and what is right, than to go on being wrong, and trying to persuade others to a false and deadly outcome. How is that godly or moral, or conservative?

Please ask God for a discerning heart, and listen —

Powerful Testimonial interview from a pastor and his wife from Belarus, and his activity in Ukraine, from 6 months ago -
https://youtu.be/kwvQHN_jYy8

Powerful interview by true conservative Epoch Times Polish (and now) American reporter Jan Jakielek Interview with Andrei Illarionov, 6 Year Chief Economic Advisor and Russian G8 Rep to Putin (P.S. I volunteered to teach an economic and finance class for him in the 1990’s in a related Moscow State satellite college course, until the FSB stopped us)
https://youtu.be/gbSKm6vHh5Q

As I am sure you have seen posted from FR’s Widget jr, the graphic designed with near current redundant studies, does correctly show Ukraine to be significantly more conservative, God loving, and anti socialist by US standards than almost any EU nation, and Russia correctly being far more structurally socialist/fascist, and actually with a far higher number of people identifying as humanist, gnostic/gnostic marxist, atheist, anti-American, and anti-Jewish/Israel

That being said, I literally have hundreds of friends in and from Russia, many of which I have helped with visa’s to the US. Many because they were being persecuted by the FSB in the 1990’s and 2000’s for their true faith in God, and or because these Evangelical and Protestant Christians were being denied critical medical help because the “state” had them listed as “enemy” of the state.


157 posted on 10/13/2022 8:08:14 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Interesting post; and thank you.


158 posted on 10/13/2022 8:48:56 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

You are welcome.

There is a lot going on for sure.


159 posted on 10/13/2022 9:27:43 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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