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Ukraine – the situation (September 6, 2022)
Asia Times ^

Posted on 09/06/2022 4:57:03 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: Robert DeLong
You bring them here.

I already did.

Post #15 and post #33.

I am not going to go find them. Bring them here so everyone can see them.

I did already post them. You don't need to 'find' anything, as I already provided you the link so you could verify it yourself directly from the FIRMS website.

41 posted on 09/06/2022 12:11:35 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: WMarshal
The Kherson offensive will be continuing to fail and begin to head west.

When the Russian retreat from Kherson, which spin will you find most palatable from Moscow?

A) It was always a clever feint to get our forces destroyed on this unimportant axis of advance.

B) Kherson has been returned to the Ukrainian people as a gesture of goodwill from the Russian armed forces.

If it is something else, I'd like to hear it before the defeat so we can compare notes.

42 posted on 09/06/2022 12:21:23 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

Nonsense...the Russian advance on Kiev accomplished the goal of getting Ukraine to seriously negotiate a settlement, and it almost succeeded in ending the war.

But for the interference of the US/UK at the 11th hour Russia would have withdrawn all its forces to pre-Feb 24th lines, and its pull back from the areas around Kiev at the end of March was the beginning of the that effort...a gesture of good will.

However after meeting with Boris Johnson in early April, Zelenski cut off all negotiations, and a week later the Russians moved on and announced the next phase of their Special Military Operation, which was the liberation of Eastern Ukraine and the destruction of the Ukraine Army in Donbas.


43 posted on 09/06/2022 12:22:56 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Gunslingr3

those are not photos, which is what you claim they have. I cold make make, what you presented, up. I presented to you actual photos of earth that were created by satellites.


44 posted on 09/06/2022 12:23:09 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
those are not photos, which is what you claim they have.

You misread, and then went running with your misapprehension.

In post #6 I wrote: "I’m sure the NASA FIRMS data showing fires getting closer and closer to Kherson is probably fake news too."

You responded, "If what you say were even remotely true, we would be seeing those pictures. But we don't, because they do not exist."

So then I showed you the pictures in posts #15 and #33. I even provided you a link to check the data yourself with instructions on how the interactive map works. Are you just incapable of acknowledging that fighting in Kherson is moving closer to Kherson city?

When the Russian flee Kherson, what do you think will be Moscow's excuse? That the move toward Nikolaev and Odessa beyond were really just a clever feint? Or will you buy that the Russian retreat from Kherson is just a 'goodwill gesture'? How do you think they'll spin the reversal?

45 posted on 09/06/2022 2:27:01 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: WMarshal

By this time WW2 Germany defeated France 4.3 times (6 weeks).


46 posted on 09/06/2022 2:28:41 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Gunslingr3; WMarshal

WMarshal Is a mental misfit who invents things to assuage his damaged psyche from Putin’s failing invasion of Ukraine. Like his weird obsession with me supposedly taking cold showers.


47 posted on 09/06/2022 2:34:57 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Gunslingr3

Your data still showed no such thing. It only showed a bunch of red squares. So, you trust NASA I take it. Problem is, I don’t believe a thing coming out of these agencies anymore. Even NASA have shown their true colors.


48 posted on 09/06/2022 2:56:01 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
Your data still showed no such thing. It only showed a bunch of red squares. So, you trust NASA I take it. Problem is, I don’t believe a thing coming out of these agencies anymore. Even NASA have shown their true colors.

You’re probably right. I bet NASA is faking the satellite data in the infrared spectrum to just make it seem like the Russians are retreating toward Kherson city under fire. Let’s ignore that.

When the Russians retreat from Kherson, what do you think will be Moscow’s explanation for what happened? Do you think they’ll use the ‘feint’ excuse again, like they did at Sumy, Kiev, and Chernigov? Or do you think they try to sell it as a goodwill gesture in the midst of war?

I would like to see your comment ‘on the record’ so we can refer to it later.

49 posted on 09/06/2022 3:26:38 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Listen, they have the technology to provide actual photos, not the BS that you presented. So, why are they not releasing the photos. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a 1,000 words.

I have no clue, but what are your thoughts if Russia wins this conflict in the final analysis. Just for the record.

You seem to believe that many Russians are against this conflict, and you may be right. If Russia is as bad as you believe it to be, will the press lie to the people, like our press did about Vietnam to sway public opinion against the war? We were winning the Vietnam war. The North Vietnamese did not defeat us. The press did that with their lies. Will the press in Russia replicate that tactic to lose in Ukraine?

Because that is really the only way Russia gets defeated.

50 posted on 09/06/2022 3:47:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

I asked you a question and you keep ducking so I’ll keep bringing it back to you until you actually answer it, at which point I’ll answer any question you have and even entertain whatever additional conspiracy theories you want to invent to ignorance evidence:

When the Russians retreat from Kherson, what do you think will be Moscow’s explanation for what happened? Do you think they’ll use the ‘feint’ excuse again, like they did at Sumy, Kiev, and Chernigov? Or do you think they try to sell it as a goodwill gesture in the midst of war?


51 posted on 09/06/2022 3:51:51 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
I did answer you. I said: I have no clue.

So, since I did answer you, now answer my question.

52 posted on 09/06/2022 3:54:04 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Gunslingr3

When the Russians retreat from Kherson will you view that as signs of Russian progress toward their aims, or Ukrainian?

What would constitute a Russian ‘win’ in this conflict?

The press in Russia right now is trying to convince their public that they’re winning. Any editor trying to tell the Russian people they’re not winning is liable to slip in front of a hospital window.


53 posted on 09/06/2022 4:05:30 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You keep doing your NWO shtick but your propaganda rests on nothing but falsehoods and wishes. If you really do live in Berlin good luck to you, you will need it.


54 posted on 09/06/2022 6:05:09 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal

You have serious mental issues and must be aware of that fact.


55 posted on 09/06/2022 7:52:46 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Ok Berlin_Bidenista. Try to calm down. Take a Berlin-style whore bath with cold water and rag. That will help you to calm down and manage your anger. After you are semi-clean then boil up some turnips with a fat and then read you some Nietzsche.


56 posted on 09/06/2022 8:23:24 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal

I see this is the up-swing of your bipolar episode.

Tomorrow you will be posting seething RAGE again.

You should spend time on your mental condition instead of being insanely obsessed with my bathing.


57 posted on 09/06/2022 8:29:31 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If you gave up your toaster to “save energy” I am certain that you gave up hot showers. Embrace the suck.


58 posted on 09/06/2022 8:30:41 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal

I do what I can to help Ukraine destroy your fragile mental condition with Putin’s failed invasion.


59 posted on 09/06/2022 8:32:41 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Kherson isn’t going well for your pet Ukes. I am certain that you willl be the one raging as the your hero Biden’s war swirls down th toilet. Sucks to be a Bidenista right now.


60 posted on 09/06/2022 8:33:42 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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