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F-15 vs. AR-15? Bet on the Guys With the Guns
townhall.com ^ | 9/5/2022 0001 hrs edt | Kurt Schlicter

Posted on 09/05/2022 8:30:38 AM PDT by rktman

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To: wgmalabama

Sorry for the churn. I almost consider the Ukraine War, a semi-civil war. Seems like there are sympathizers on both sides of the line. Hopefully, they will figure out a peace soon.


41 posted on 09/05/2022 10:27:08 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: gundog

In Vietnam, their top spy, was the guy running the cab stand in Saigon.


42 posted on 09/05/2022 10:28:07 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: dpetty121263

The founding fathers defeated the Brits by using a well sighted in rifle/musket and shooting the leaders. You don’t have to kill all of the mindless boobs chanting some leftist crappola, just the turd with the bull horn.

Or, the politician.

That is how an American civil war with be done. And, you don’t need an AR-15. Just arm yourself with what BeijingBiden recommended, a shotgun. Plenty of range for the job needed.

Mid-level soldiers will not fire on civilians. Their leaders (woke DBags) will order them to do so. Have they forgotten Nam? Don’t they know what the word fragging means?

The commie trash now in power are panicking.

Push them over the edge. Every avatar and signoff should now include : FJB.


43 posted on 09/05/2022 10:33:12 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: TreasonObserver
The thought of civil war is not what anyone thinks. It is the collapse of rules of law. I am not sure I can even comprehend it but this is what I Consider -

Gangs in cities are not unified. They will wage a bloody street by street war over control. Even those not in one will have to join for survival.

The massive tent cities in some cities and even those not in tents are addicted to drugs/alcohol. Right now cheap meth and fentanyl are keeping the violence and crime at a minimum. Gangs are willing to make money off them. This group is the most dangerous. They will kill / steal / harm anyone for another fix. The gangs may decide to kill them or push them out of their territory. Since they have no allegiance to anything other than their mental illness almost everyone will want these people gone and fast. They are a danger to anyone and everyone. Killed almost as fast as the city elites.

City elites will get eaten first. Conservatives or democrats it won't matter. The police, fire fighters … may well bug out, stay home or congregate for safety but protecting people that look down on them will be low on the list. This group will not be able to see the danger until it destroys them. They will be on their cell phones demanding protection when their doors get kicked in. Won't be pretty.

Suburbs may well put politics behind survival quickly as the city ventures out. It will take a bit for the realization that hungry mean people don't really care about your politics. Slow areas will be thoroughly destroyed fighting each other when the city gangs venture out. Survival will depend on the local area.

Elites in the suburbs will get eaten quickly. They will hold onto their perceived status and get eaten buy suburban poor or city criminals. They will be the third group dead (after urban elites and mentally unstable druggies). The gangs of the city will hit the multi-million dollar subdivision/ communities first. Local police will be no match to the brutal savages that come out. Druggies and gangs will win the day. These people will also be on their cell phones hoping for help. Some may arm up but they just don't have the savagery to live.

Rural people will be a mixed bag. 200 people going door to door in rural USA will get shot at from every direction. They can overrun areas but it won't take long to decide suburbs are easier if they aren't unified.

Politicians and military will be successful in some areas. Military towns can be secured. Major cities not much so. They may try but it would take the entire US Army to control just NYC. Won't take long for politicians to decide to play defense in smaller areas. Military towns may not respond and leave family's to fend for themselves. I see the power brokers in the US military going to the O-5 level. Just based on my experience.

44 posted on 09/05/2022 10:35:36 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: dpetty121263

Yep, or even just taint the supplies rather than disrupt them. Just add gasoline to the fuel... Done Deal...


45 posted on 09/05/2022 10:37:48 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: rktman
I can understand that it wouldn't be much of a fight between 2A types and soy boys, but what about the Crips, Bloods, MS13, etc.?

They're gonna want to monopolize what food, water, arms, ammo, etc. they can get and it won't be a cakewalk getting it back from them.

46 posted on 09/05/2022 10:38:22 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: rktman

If I could get a few dozen of those AR-15s Joe Stupid was talking about with five times the muzzle velocity of any other rifle, I’ll take on his F-15s

Maybe they make those at one of those ten billion jobs Joe Stupid created.


47 posted on 09/05/2022 10:40:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods

HUH? And here I thought it was ten thousand million. 😕😂🙌


48 posted on 09/05/2022 10:43:05 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: wgmalabama

I like your analysis. However, I am not so sure cell phones will work much. Maybe, HAM radios.

But, you got me thinking, maybe fetanyl epidemic is CIA, to control civil dissent. Wouldn’t be surprised.


49 posted on 09/05/2022 10:43:21 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: TreasonObserver

Lots of pizza delivery guys at Homestead, every day. Some may have been disgruntled ex-GIs. It would have been easy to go into the laundry room in any dorm and grab some uniforms. There were no fences around the flightline...just a rope you weren’t supposed to step over...literally ankle-high. There were breaks in it that served as “gates.” I didn’t know about it at the time( early ‘80s) but there were a couple of central Americans caught walking along the flightline road in uniform one night. They had the old, unsubdued chevrons on their sleeves. That’s what got them busted. A little bit of stealth and some firestarting equipment snd they could have burned four squadrons of jets.


50 posted on 09/05/2022 10:50:10 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: TreasonObserver

You are probably right. After the tornadoes came through North Alabama, cell service was up and running fairly quickly. No one will mess with them since everyone needs them. That and it won’t stop people that have no other plan but 911.

I can’t see many states being able to raise an army and control their state with the biggest leach community left home to raise hell. Sad but we have only 2 moves to win and no one has the guts to do it.


51 posted on 09/05/2022 10:51:30 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: Keyga8tor

No such luck. The F-15’s have to be all electric by 2030. They won’t need fuel.

The electricity comes from the wall outlet.


52 posted on 09/05/2022 10:52:32 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: gundog

Air squadrons need a lot of logistics to keep them flying. No way, they can fly in a Civil War, unless they are flying from another country or a foreign aircraft carrier.

Ain’t hard to find uniforms either.


53 posted on 09/05/2022 10:54:44 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: rktman

bravado from a bully

not very presidential


54 posted on 09/05/2022 10:57:38 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: wgmalabama

I don’t know how armies will form. Especially the opposition to the Fed. Look what happened with the kidnapping of the Gov of Michigan. It was mostly the FIB, but that is how it will be at first. They will infiltrate everyone and will lead to mass arrests. That is until they find themselves hanging from bridges.


55 posted on 09/05/2022 10:59:08 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: McGavin999

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56 posted on 09/05/2022 11:04:30 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: TreasonObserver

It would have to be the Governor with funding from the legislative branch. What do they use as funding. Lol. Step 1.


57 posted on 09/05/2022 11:05:30 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
but what about the Crips, Bloods, MS13, etc.? They're gonna want to monopolize what food, water, arms, ammo, etc. they can get and it won't be a cakewalk getting it back from them.

The drug gangs may be formidable on their own territory, but they are not growing food in "the hood".

Once it gets bad, any Crip-type who ventures out of the inner cities will be shot on sight.

58 posted on 09/05/2022 11:07:22 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Obama, and now Joe Biden, are shipping Obama’s sons and Biden’s amigos to a small city near you.


59 posted on 09/05/2022 11:10:28 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: wrench

But unlike Tienanmen, ‘anybody’ will be shooting back. And tanks are vulnerable to the same issues f-15s are; maint, crew, support, fuel.


60 posted on 09/05/2022 11:11:42 AM PDT by curious7
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