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Report: Russia, Ukraine Tentatively Agreed on Peace Deal in April
scheerpost.com ^ | September 1, 2022 | Dave DeCamp

Posted on 09/04/2022 6:21:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Russian and Ukrainian officials tentatively agreed on a potential peace deal during negotiations back in April 2022, according to a Foreign Affairs article by Fiona Hill and Angela Stent that cited former US officials.

The article reads: “According to multiple former senior US officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement.”

The terms of that settlement would have been for Russia to withdraw to the positions it held before launching the invasion on February 24. In exchange, Ukraine would “promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

The tentative deal was the result of in-person peace talks Russian and Ukrainian officials held in Istanbul at the end of March. Virtual talks resumed after the meeting in Istanbul, but the two sides ultimately failed to reach a deal.

A major factor in the failed negotiated settlement was pressure from the West. According to a report from Ukrainska Pravda, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to stop negotiating with Russia when he visited Kyiv on April 9.

According to the report, Johnson told Zelensky that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, Kyiv’s Western backers are not. The report said that Russia was ready for a meeting between Putin and Zelensky on the potential peace deal, but it became less likely after Johnson’s visit.

Johnson appeared to confirm the Ukrainska Pravda report when he told French President Emmanuel Macron in May that he “urged” Ukraine not to negotiate during his visit to Kyiv. The British leader, who is due to step down in September, visited Kyiv one last time as prime minister in August.

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1 posted on 09/04/2022 6:21:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is old news...


2 posted on 09/04/2022 6:28:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hmmmm...except that the original cited source doesn't exactly say that, and is taken out of context.

See here: The World Putin Wants How Distortions About the Past Feed Delusions About the Future

Vladimir Putin is determined to shape the future to look like his version of the past. Russia’s president invaded Ukraine not because he felt threatened by NATO expansion or by Western “provocations.” He ordered his “special military operation” because he believes that it is Russia’s divine right to rule Ukraine, to wipe out the country’s national identity, and to integrate its people into a Greater Russia.

This treatise, and similar public statements, make clear that Putin wants a world where Russia presides over a new Slavic union composed of Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, and perhaps the northern part of Kazakhstan (which is heavily Slavic)—and where all the other post-Soviet states recognize Russia’s suzerainty. He also wants the West and the global South to accept Russia’s predominant regional role in Eurasia. This is more than a sphere of influence; it is a sphere of control, with a mixture of outright territorial reintegration of some places and dominance in the security, political, and economic spheres of others.

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Despite calls by some for a negotiated settlement that would involve Ukrainian territorial concessions, Putin seems uninterested in a compromise that would leave Ukraine as a sovereign, independent state—whatever its borders. According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries. But as Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated in a July interview with his country’s state media, this compromise is no longer an option. Even giving Russia all of the Donbas is not enough. “Now the geography is different,” Lavrov asserted, in describing Russia’s short-term military aims. “It’s also Kherson and the Zaporizhzhya regions and a number of other territories.” The goal is not negotiation, but Ukrainian capitulation.

3 posted on 09/04/2022 6:31:13 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Let’s you and he fight.


4 posted on 09/04/2022 6:36:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Timber Rattler

Call it a “Monroe Doctrine” for Slavs?


5 posted on 09/04/2022 6:37:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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More like an “Anschluss Doctrine.”


6 posted on 09/04/2022 6:39:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican

VERY SAD that the two countries couldn’t be left alone to settle their differences. Now there are huge deaths, injuries, and dislocations.

About the only good part of all of their is that Europeans are getting to better know Greta.


7 posted on 09/04/2022 6:44:36 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The blood of tens of thousands is on the hands of Johnson.


8 posted on 09/04/2022 6:46:44 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: PGR88
"Call it a “Monroe Doctrine” for Slavs?


9 posted on 09/04/2022 6:47:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BobL
VERY SAD that the two countries couldn’t be left alone to settle their differences.

VERY SAD that Comrade Putin CHOSE to invade and destroy a sovereign country over differences HE CREATED.


10 posted on 09/04/2022 7:02:32 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Kazan
The blood of tens of thousands is on the hands of Johnson.

The blood of tens of thousands is on the hands of Johnson Putin.

Fixed.

11 posted on 09/04/2022 7:03:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican

DC scuttled it.


12 posted on 09/04/2022 7:04:06 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Timber Rattler

VERY SAD that the two countries couldn’t be left alone to settle their differences.


13 posted on 09/04/2022 7:05:35 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: Timber Rattler; All

“Vladimir Putin is determined to shape the future to look like his version of the past. Russia’s president invaded Ukraine not because he felt threatened by NATO expansion or by Western “provocations.” He ordered his “special military operation” because he believes that it is Russia’s divine right to rule Ukraine, to wipe out the country’s national identity, and to integrate its people into a Greater Russia.”

Sane people in the west realize they have no interests contrary to the above.

The crazy and the stupid see all sorts of reasons the US should try to prevent that, but for some reason cannot articulate a cogent and reasoned argument to that effect. At least not one that Americans, who are focused on American interests, will buy.

It all about Ukrainian and European NATO interests, neither of which have anything to do with US interests.


14 posted on 09/04/2022 7:15:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Hitler and Stalin would love short-sighted Quisling appeasers like you...


15 posted on 09/04/2022 7:17:26 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"The terms of that settlement would have been for Russia to withdraw to the positions it held before launching the invasion on February 24. In exchange, Ukraine would “promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”"

Given that Ukraine and NATO knew by April Russia intended to take the entire country, the Russian army was outside of Kyiv, why should Zelensky have trusted Putin to honor any agreement?

Any deal Russia offered was just to by time for their army to regroup and try again. When it comes to Russian irredentism and the 2nd CCCP, Putin can not be trusted.

16 posted on 09/04/2022 7:18:52 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦)
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“Hitler and Stalin would love short-sighted Quisling appeasers like you...”

Hey there you pussy assed neocon chickenhawk, tell us about all the years you wore a US uniform and fought for US interests.

You can’t.

Because you’re a pussy and real men piss on your shoes.


17 posted on 09/04/2022 7:21:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Because you’re a pussy and real men piss on your shoes.

Think so, Comrade Quisling Mariner?

18 posted on 09/04/2022 7:24:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler; All

Everyone on this site can spot a pussy ass neocon chicken hawk.

Just ask ‘em, and they’ll tell you: Yep, you’re one.


19 posted on 09/04/2022 7:27:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Everyone on this site can spot a pussy ass neocon chicken hawk.

Did I touch a raw nerve, Comrade Quisling Mariner?

20 posted on 09/04/2022 7:29:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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