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Ukraine war: UK programme to train 'citizen soldiers' is expanding
Sky News.com ^ | September 5, 2022 | Deborah Haynes

Posted on 09/04/2022 5:38:28 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Flick Lives
The fighting style of the colonists was to not engage British troops in lined formations

Think so, Comrade Flick?


41 posted on 09/04/2022 7:22:56 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sorry. Stylized paintings are not reflective of the reality. For one thing, most colonists did not have such uniforms. Many were lucky to have adequate shoes or a winter coat. The reality was not glorious, it was brutal, grim, cold, and hungry; with the ever present threat of sickness due to contaminated water.

Such scenes as that painting are a fantasy of the conditions the troops faced.


42 posted on 09/04/2022 7:31:46 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: Timber Rattler

Besides which, what the hell good would the cavalry do *behind* the troops? You use horses in flanking maneuvers to get behind and surround enemy troops. Of course the picture takes liberties with that as well as horses were a rarity as they require feed and water and your average plow horse won’t work in battlefield conditions.


43 posted on 09/04/2022 7:37:41 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: Timber Rattler; Flick Lives

“The fighting style of the colonists was to not engage British troops in lined formations.
Think so, Comrade Flick?”

I believe some militia groups/colonists did and some didn’t.

There were a lot of different groups of militia
who were commanded by different people
who had different ideas of how to fight.


44 posted on 09/04/2022 7:40:19 PM PDT by missthethunder
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To: Flick Lives
Sorry. Stylized paintings are not reflective of the reality. For one thing, most colonists did not have such uniforms.

Hate to break it to you, Comrade, but that is an official U.S. Defense Department painting depicting the Battle of Guilford Court House, based on eyewitness accounts of the battle, which absolutely was fought between two lines of Continentals and British Regulars.

And YES, by March 1781, Continental troops were well-uniformed and equipped by the French, with the so-called "lottery uniforms," contract hats with cockades, and Charleville Muskets with bayonets.

“The French-made “Lottery” Uniforms of the Continental Army, 1777-1779: Their Procurement, Distribution, Cut and Construction”

45 posted on 09/04/2022 7:41:14 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes, it was all fun and games until the dysentery or smallpox hit.


46 posted on 09/04/2022 7:44:39 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: Flick Lives
Besides which, what the hell good would the cavalry do *behind* the troops? You use horses in flanking maneuvers to get behind and surround enemy troops.

You don't know much about the Battle of Guilford Court House, do you, Comrade Flick?

Battle Facts: Guilford Court House

Adopting a tactic utilized by Daniel Morgan at the Battle of Cowpens, Greene formed his roughly 4,500 men into three lines. The first line was held by North Carolina militia. In the second line Greene positioned militia from Virginia. Continental Regulars composed Greene’s third and most formidable line. The concept, known as a defense in depth, was for the first two lines to exhaust the enemy's advance and inflict as many casualties as possible in the hopes of delivering a decisive blow at the third line.

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The first British unit to reach the third line was the 33rd Regiment. There, the regiment engaged Continentals from Virginia and Maryland and were driven back. The 2nd Guards, however, managed to turn the 2nd Maryland's right but were stopped in a counterattack by Lt. Colonel William Washington’s Light Dragoons and the 1st Maryland. With additional British infantry finally arriving on the scene from their fight on the second line, Greene prudently disengaged and withdrew.

Guilford Courthouse was a pyrrhic victory for Cornwallis. Despite besting the American army, he had lost 25% of his men and was in no position to pursue Greene. Cornwallis decided to withdraw to his supply base at Wilmington to rest and refit. With his army still not in condition to engage Greene by the middle of April, Cornwallis decided to shift his operations to Virginia, a decision that would contribute to the independence of the United States.

BTW, that "cavalry" is actually Colonel William Washington's 1st and 3rd Continental Light Dragoons. And they were indeed placed behind Greene's third line to hide them from the British, so that they could in fact make a flanking attack at a critical moment during the battle, just like they did at Cowpens.


47 posted on 09/04/2022 7:49:37 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: caww

How many weeks of training did you have? Oh that’s right, from the lack of military knowledge you have exhibited in your posts, you never had any.


48 posted on 09/04/2022 7:53:30 PM PDT by Grognard49
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To: PGR88

That and when things start to loo really bad, a CIA helicopter will get Zelensky out of the country and someplace safe, while his countrymen/women suffer.

And no one will question where he got all the money he’s sitting on to live a very comfortable life.


49 posted on 09/04/2022 7:54:55 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: ansel12

The difference being, Americans being trained by Americans. Americans educated in American schools being trained on American equipment.

No telling who is being trained by the Brits.

As others have said, this is more ‘lambs to the slaughter’, all perpetuated by the WEF, globalists and a corrupt western and American political machine.


50 posted on 09/04/2022 7:59:26 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: caww

If she need a safe place to live I gladly volunteer to let her stay with me. She will never have to worry about Russian artillery or soldiers where I live


51 posted on 09/04/2022 8:02:46 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: PAR35

They would be called guerrillas or insurgents, would they not?


52 posted on 09/04/2022 8:03:45 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Timber Rattler

BTW, that “cavalry” is actually Colonel William Washington’s 1st and 3rd Continental Light Dragoons. And they were indeed placed behind Greene’s third line to hide them from the British

Sort of hard to hide a horse and rider, about 8 feet tall, behind troops, 6 feet tall. If you were going to hide cavalry, you’d position them well offside, possibly over a rise or some other visual obstruction.


53 posted on 09/04/2022 8:03:58 PM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: qaz123

The people have to fight for their nation, and having the world’s finest trainers, and training these motivated fighters in a safe zone, will greatly help them.


54 posted on 09/04/2022 8:09:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: qaz123

Soldiers would be called soldiers.


55 posted on 09/04/2022 8:12:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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How do you know they’re motivated, for one?

And all the training in the world means nothing when bullets start flying and indirect fire starts dropping.

Train all you want in very basic weapons handling. Shooting, reloading, clearing malfunctions under stress, even in training environments, isn’t easy.

Sure there might be a few or more that will get it. Most of them, if engaged by the Russians will die a brutal death.

That’s the truth. Not wishful thinking.


56 posted on 09/04/2022 8:14:07 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: cranked

Ten weeks basic is current because it includes political stuff.

See post 15.


57 posted on 09/04/2022 8:16:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: qaz123

That entire post sounded like wishful thinking, simple hoping.


58 posted on 09/04/2022 8:17:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Asymmetric warfare…..

Asymmetric warfare is the term given to describe a type of war between belligerents whose relative military power differs significantly

This is typically a war between a standing, professional army and an insurgency or resistance movement militias who often have status of unlawful combatants.

The guys that the Green Berets, the experts in unconventional and guerrilla warfare, train to be insurgents against invading forces.


59 posted on 09/04/2022 8:19:01 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Flick Lives
and it was also smart enough, thru gen. Washington, to avoid major engagements with the British; basically employing strategies of asymmetrical warfare.

Exactly.

60 posted on 09/04/2022 8:21:49 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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